2015 Depth Charts Update: Denver Broncos

A breakdown of the Denver Broncos' Depth Chart after Free Agency and the Draft.

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2015 Depth Charts Update: Denver Broncos


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Notes

  • At wide receiver they aren’t too concerned with what they have at the top of the pile, with both Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders impressive targets for Peyton Manning in 2014. Where there should be some concern, though, is beyond those two. Cody Latimer will be expected to have a big role in his second season, but the second round draft pick saw just 37 snaps as a rookie so we don’t have much to go on there. Outside of that there isn’t too much to get excited about at the position, unless someone unknown can step up and surprise us.
  • Running back is a position with a lot of depth, and the surprise package of C.J. Anderson in 2014 gives them a strong starter to boost the position ever further. Despite not starting until Week 11, Anderson still finished 2014 as our third-highest graded runner at the position, averaging 4.7 yards per carry, and 2.5 yards after contact per carry.
  • The Broncos are likely to be a primarily 3-4 defense in 2015 which makes for a couple of interesting changes. In the past Malik Jackson has played 4-3 defensive end in their base defense, before kicking inside on obvious passing situations, while Von Miller has played linebacker in base and put his hands in the ground in sub-packages. That will still likely be true for both in sub-packages, but Miller seems perfectly suited to the role of 3-4 outside linebacker, which will take full advantage of his skills as a pass rusher.
  • The Broncos have one of the stronger secondaries in the league, with all five key players good enough to be considered no worse than average. They are headlined by the talented Chris Harris Jr., who was our highest-graded cornerback in coverage in 2014. Even more impressive is that he did this coming off a serious knee injury, leaving us to wonder just how good he’ll be in 2015.

 

 

 

  • Jason Williams

    When was the last time that Peyton Manning was not considered elite?

    • J5R

      How is DT not elite? Just took a look at some of the other depth charts and Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, and Odell Beckam Jr are elite. DT is graded the same as T.Y. Hilton…nothing against the guy, but DT>>>>Hilton.

      • Chris

        DT is the best bubble screener in the league. I’m fine with Dark Green as an overall receiving target.

        • anon76returns

          Who do you think has had more of an elite-level career so far, DT, Odell Beckham, or Cobb?

          Because this depth chart series posits that two of those three are “elite” overall receiving targets.

          • Chris

            I wouldn’t put Cobb up there either. ODB deserved it based on last year.

          • anon76returns

            Can you really judge “Eliteness” on less than a full season of work? ODB’s season grade was a 20.4 on 793 snaps (0.026 avg grade/snap). CJ Anderson’s season grade was a 20.3 on 563 snaps (0.036 avg. grade/snaps). PFF grade would say that CJ had considerably more impact/play than ODB, why shouldn’t he be elite? Brandon Marshall graded out at a 20.3 in his first season as a starter as well, and he didn’t even get the dark green tag.
            On the other hand, except for one bad playoff game Julio Jones has graded out worse than DT in every single season they’ve been in the league (-2.2 vs 0.7 in 2011; 13.9 vs 20.8 in 2012; 6.3 vs 20.0 in 2013; and 17.0 vs 16.5 in 2014; 4 year cumulative grade of 35 vs. 58). Julio Jones gets the elite tag, but not DT. Seems a little silly, no?

          • Chris

            You can’t compare grades between positions. That explains why Anderson and Marshall can put up similar numbers to ODB but not get an elite tag. ODB’s 20.4 was elite for a WR. Anderson and Marshall both fell just short for their respective positions. They said in the intro that Elite is only the Top 50 in the league, regardless of position. So that doesn’t leave room for many.

            As far as Julio v. DT. Two things you have to consider. First off I’m assuming you used overall grades, because when I chart out both players’ receiving grades I get different numbers. Receiving grades are paramount for receivers. And something to keep in mind – DT has played 1500 more snaps than Julio. If you look at their receiving grades per snap, they are dead even over their careers. AND the kicker…Julio had a slow start in his rookie year. If you compare both players’ receiving grades per snap over just the last 3 seasons, Julio is nearly 50% more efficient than DT per snap. He’s just played about 1500 less snaps.

            And that ties into my second point – on the intro page they mention the Depth Chart grades are not career based, but are based on 2014 play with a nod to their careers. In 2014 Julio and DT had nearly identical receiving grades, and Julio did it with 250 less snaps.

            If I have to make a judgment call, I say Julio has been more efficient with his snaps over the last 3 years than DT, and he was better in 2014. Plus I still stick to my original point – DT is the king of bubble screens. Julio is a more complete receiver IMO.

          • anon76returns

            The top 50 thing is the sore spot for me.

            PFF published a list of the top 101 players in the league for last year. The Broncos had 6 players in the top 50- CHJ, Von, Sanders, Malik, DT, and CJ Anderson. A 7th player, Brandon Marshall, was close to making the cut, coming in at #60. (Jones was ranked #53).

            Yet somehow the Broncos only get 2 elite players in the depth chart. I can see 1 or 2 guys not making it, just due to the vagaries of subjective rankings. But keeping 4 of our guys off the list? Especially when Malik and DT have been consistently good for a couple of years now? To say nothing of Manning, who had been the #1 rated player at his position for two years running (“For example, if a corner played well up until 2014 and then stunk, we’ll take account of his better years as well.”).
            That’s a fairly consistent bias against Bronco players, IMO. So you better believe I’m going to be complaining about it.

  • chris

    CHJ is a good system CB, but I wouldn’t put him in the same class as Revis, Sherman, or even Vontae Davis. Not saying he’s only good b/c of the scheme, he’s a very good player, however his responsibilites aren’t that of a #1 CB, which is why the Broncos went out and paid Talib the big money to cover #1 WRs instead of taking moving CHJ out of the role he excels in and making him the de factor #1.

    • Chris

      Uh, Sherman is the king of system CBs.

    • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

      best corner in football in ’14, period. all CBs are system CBs, as in they run their team’s system. this isn’t a game of pickup afterschool

    • AC

      Denver doesn’t move their corners around, it’s the same with basically every single team in the league. Talib doesn’t cover number one receivers, he covers whoever lines up on his side.

      No corner goes out and covers a number on receiver all game. The closest is probably Joe Haden, who spends about 65% of his time on a number one receiver.

      • Chris

        FYI he only spends 65% of his time on a #1, because the rest of the time their opponent doesn’t have a #1 worth tracking.

  • anon76returns

    Love that you listen to feedback on this.

    First off, not sure if you can modify the base offense, but Denver’s base will be 12 personnel, with Sanders lined up outside opposite DT. Norwood will be an option at SLWR, not outside.

    Denver will be playing with a fullback- right now Casey is #1 with JD Duncan at #2 FB.

    Green & Daniels are the two starting TEs, with Jones and Jensen backing them up.

    Harris is more likely to play RT (where’s he’s been the majority of his career), and Chris Clark is most likely to play LT (where he was the primary starter in 2013, last time Clady went down).

    While Garcia was a C at Florida, right now he’s practicing at RG behind Vasquez.

    On defense, Wolfe will be the 3-4 DE in base and on run downs, but will likely be backed up by A Smith (assuming the law doesn’t take him out), since the Broncos will want both Smith and Jackson rushing the passer together.

    Todd Davis was actually a starter for us last season when B Marsh and Trevathan went out, and graded very well over the last 3 games + playoff. He will be the primary back up, likely at WLB with Johnson likely backing up B Marsh.

    Bolden is more likely to be listed as FS than corner, and my recollection is even at CB he plays almost exclusively outside, not in the slot.

    And how you go about picking your colors is of course up to you, but you should really consider what is causing you to grade DT outside of the elite. You say it is broadly the top 50 players in the league, and happily PFF puts out a list of the top 100 players every year. DT has been in the top 50 on that list 2 out of the last three seasons (including 2014), and was ranked #53 in his out year. He’s been ranked higher than Jordy Nelson (one of your ‘elites’) in each of the last two years, and ranked higher than Cobb every year. Cobb didn’t even make the top 100 in any of the last three years, yet is considered elite?? How the heck does that work- Sanders was #42 this year!

    Also strange to see Manning fall from the #1 ranked QB in each of the past two years, to suddenly not even being considered elite this season. Neither Brady nor Roethlisberger were considered elite last season- have they really become that much better than Manning, or are you letting the playoffs cloud your judgement on that.

    Finally, I know we say it every year, but your grade on Wolfe is overly critical. He is primarily a run stuffer, and he had the 8th highest run-stuffing grade of any DE (4-3 or 3-4, which was closer to his actual position in the 4-3U look Denver ran). His pass rushing productivity was poor for a 4-3 DE, but was competitive with the 3-4 DEs in the league, which, again, was closer to the actual position he was playing in our defense, especially in our nickel look. Even forgiving his extra harsh pass rush grade given his productivity there, he still finished within 1 really good snap of having a 0.0 grade on the season. That is an average player, especially considering he’s coming off of serious, neurological injury in 2013.

    • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

      get em! lol. but he is correct, max garcia playing RG currently (i wish i knew why tho), and todd davis is 2nd string WILB, Stevie J is also 2nd string SILB. also correct about us using a FB now, which juwuan might categorize as as well, they’re not sure about his role yet tho

      • anon76returns

        Gotta have someone to back up Vasquez. Right now ACLs are popping like champagne corks at a Wall Street “hookers and blow” event.

        • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

          i’d rather have someone starting at center, someone not named gino gradkowski

          • anon76returns

            Meet Matt Paradis. I really think the coaches and FO are high on the kid. Kubiak’s been deflecting questions of “how is Gino doing?” to “I think he’s going to be really good at helping Matt take his job.”

          • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

            lol, freals. couch kubes loves playing known commodities tho, hopefully paradis wins it. i wouldn’t have minded having garcia at LG iffff clady was at LT still, obv can’t have two rooks manning the left side together. just frustrated they’re basically giving up on max so early this year

          • anon76returns

            LOL. I wanted them to keep Montgomery (for $600K LESS than Gradkowski and no loss of draft capitol), or at least brought in Myers. Still think that latter might happen if Paradis doesn’t show well.

          • Rick S.

            I was surprised they didn’t resign Montgomery, because were better with him in the line up and he graded out well per PFF. Playing for Shanahan, he certainly knows the system…

          • anon76returns

            Yep, I thought it was between Myers and Montgomery, with Myers having an edge in system familiarity while Monty would be cheaper ($900K) and have Manning familiarity. Getting Gradkowski for $1.5M (and having to downgrade our 4th round pick next year) seemed like a MUCH worse option, especially when you consider his PFF grade from 2013 and the fact that the guy who replaced him (Zuttah) was no world beater himself.

    • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

      they’re planning on keeping chris clark at RT, and as the starterm, for now tho

      • anon76returns

        I’m pretty sure that’s while they get a handle on what Sambraillo can do.

        • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

          unless he’s totally incompetent my belief is they keep the rookie on the blindside all year

          • anon76returns

            Yikes. Rookie LTs almost always have rough years.

          • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

            ryan clady didn’t, in this exact scheme, jussayin

          • anon76returns

            I sure hope he pulls it off. But Clady was the #12 pick and was projected as a 1st rounder based on college tape. Ty is the 59th pick, and was projected as 3rd-4th round based on college tape. And Greg Robinson, Jake Mathews, Ja’Wuan James, Eric Fisher, and Luke Joeckel are all recent examples of whatever the kids are learning in college these days not translating well to the NFL game at LT.

          • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

            yeee, but they didn’t have kubiak and manning hiding their weaknesses 😉

    • Chris

      Good stuff on Wolfe – always been a fan of his.

      FYI they like you to post links to news articles backing up stuff about where guys are playing in OTAs.

    • Dalen Erickson

      What I heard is that Sanders will be the number 2 in base defense but will play the slot when they go 3 wide (which is most of the time) and Latimer will play outside. I think theres room for a lot of flexibility here. Caldwell is an underated player who can play outside and inside. If Latimer doesn’t step up or if they encounter injuries, he is a reliable veteran who could be pretty effective if given the chance

      • anon76returns

        Base offense is going to run for at least half the snaps, 3 wide will maybe be 30-50%, so might as well list Sanders where he’s going to play the majority of the time.
        In re. to Caldwell, most Bronco fans want him cut. He was not at all reliable when given the opportunity last year- he led the team with 3 drops on 16 targets, he wasn’t particularly good at blocking, and he was terrible on special teams.
        I’m personally pulling for Bennie Fowler to replace Caldwell. Fowler’s bigger, stronger, a better jumper, probably faster by this point, can make big plays after the catch, and showed well blocking and on special teams last preseason.

        • Dalen Erickson

          I agree with all of that. Im a hopeless optimist for players I like I suppose (referencing Caldwell). I didnt get to see much of his play the last 2 years so Im mostly referencing his time in Cincy which isnt a good way to evaluate his current value. Hes just been a versatile player over the course of his career and seems to be solid in most areas but outstanding in none

  • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

    surprised b marsh isn’t dark green, yall r high on him typically and deservedly so i thought

    • anon76returns

      Oh, sweet innocent Malachi.
      You just don’t get it. If someone like Odell-Beckham gets a 20.4 grade in their first season as starter, that’s “elite” level play. If someone like B Marsh gets a 20.3 grade in their first season as starter, that’s “good” level play. Hopefully I’ve made that clear enough that you can see the difference.

      • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

        so wise

      • Dalen Erickson

        You dont need to be so condescending. It was a fair question. Malachi I think he is high quality against the run but his weaknesses in coverage and pass rush bring him back down a bit. Premium run stuffer, but just a better than average ILB overall.
        See Anon, thats how you answer a question politely.

        • anon76returns

          I was having a joke with Malachi, as we are both Bronco fans that are somewhat skeptical of the rating on Marshall, at least relative to his PFF grade.
          Which, you might be interested to hear, gives him the highest coverage grade in the league amongst 4-3 OLBs, and the 4th highest grade in the league among all LBs.
          He also graded out 5th among all 4-3 OLBs in pass rush grade- pretty impressive when you consider the 4 graded higher than him (Von, Mack, Thomas Davis, and Barr) all had at least double the number of snaps as pass rushers.
          He grades a respectable 14th in run defense. Don’t know why you think he’s just a run stuffer- he’s one of the best all-around ILBs in the game.

          • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

            anon76returns : “Dalen Erickson > Malachi • 2 days ago

            I would say Marshall is most comparable to a young Brandon Spikes. Semi one dimensional but one of the best against the run”

            … ya

          • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

            just see his prev brandon spikes comparison here, lol

          • Dalen Erickson

            read my comment above

          • Dalen Erickson

            My bad. Well I suppose I stand corrected. I only got to see maybe 7 Broncos game last season and I must not have payed close enough attention to Marshalls coverage ability. I was simply trying to rationalize his rating here. What I know for a fact is that he is a premium run stuffer so I suppose I assumed he mustn’t be graded that high elsewhere. Is it that comical Malachi? I know NFL players very very well as, like many of us here, I really have no life of substance so I hyper focus on football but inevitably I have to be wrong about some things. You can only watch so many games and monitor so many players. Broncos are your team, I would hope you would know some of your players better than I do. Do you know everything about every Cowboys linebacker? What do you think of Kyle WIlber? Evaluate his ability for me and Ill tell you if your correct

        • AC

          He was PFF’s highest rated 4-3 OLB in coverage.

          • Dalen Erickson

            read my above comment. I stand corrected

        • Mike Oswald Jorgensen

          Dalen Marshall was one of the best cover Linebackers in the NFL last year top 5 as a matter of fact. Might wanna check you stats.

    • Dalen Erickson

      I would say Marshall is most comparable to a young Brandon Spikes. Semi one dimensional but one of the best against the run

      • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

        whaaaaat? u even watch him, ever? he’s a premier cover LB and a true 3 down LB, he’s actually the complete opposite spikes in that regard.

        “Marshall logged 883 snaps during the regular season and because of his excellent work in coverage had the fourth-highest grade of all 4-3 outside linebackers. His 0.55 Yards Per Snap in Coverage allowed was lowest of all 4-3 outside linebackers.”

        • Dalen Erickson

          read my comment above man. Like I said, I clearly made a poor evaluation here. I only get to see so many Broncos games a year and I dont know EVERY one of their players extremely well. Again, this is your team. Evaluate Cowboys players for me. What is Anthony Hitchens like and what does he excel at?

          • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

            a LB capable of playing all three spots in a tampa 2, and he did start at least one game at all three LB positions as a rookie coming out of Iowa. will likely assume the SLB role with the return of sean lee at WLB and the team resigning McClain at MLB. anymore brain busters? lol 😉 i’m kidding, swear, i’m more than just a broncos die hard obv

          • Dalen Erickson

            Well you named the positions he plays but not what he is good at. What you said was correct but wasn’t really what I was asking. I understand man. I appreciate a fellow die hard fan

          • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

            he’s good at uh… tackling? lol.

            u got me there, that’s the extent of my hitchens knowledge, lol

          • Dalen Erickson

            Haha very honest. Thats my point. I just made the mistake of presuming that I know enough about a player to evaluate him when Ive only watched a handful of his games.
            Wilber is an odd fit. We drafted him to be a 3-4 OLB so he has bounced from position to position. Decent pass rusher, mediocre run stuffer with solid coverage ability. Basically a guy who’s good at many things, great at none. Hitch is a run stuffer with very little pass rush ability and mediocre in coverage but gets the nod as the starter over Wilber because he is a better fit at SAM though not as well rounded. Sort of a stump like build

        • Dalen Erickson

          Like I said, only maybe 7 games.

  • Chris

    Gino Gradkowski??

    • concretejimmy

      Gradkowski is the starting Center? And they lost their rookie 2nd round TE and Daniels is old and overpaid. And lost two starting quality OL. Timmy Jernigan and Brandon Williams are going to have a field day on Manning to start the season. Not to mention Suggs and Doom. Manning might retire after week one. Let’s not forget the Ravens know Kubiak’s tendancies. I noticed he struggled against the AFCS offensively. And they’re a weak division.

      • Richard Murray

        the only field day Jernigan and Brandon is having is planning it after the regular season .First in line to be on vacation what a joke

        • Richard Murray

          did Ravens know Wade Phillips tendencies when he controlling a defense full of monsters

      • Richard Murray

        the only field day Jernigan and Brandon is having is planning it after the regular season .First in line to be on vacation what a joke

    • concretejimmy

      I get to rub it in after Manning started the season against a weak Ravens secondary with a new coach (Teryl Austin is Lions DC, soon to be a new HC). Broncos fans did. Ravens secondary is improved and won’t hold them back from winning a SB this year. Manning is another year older. Flacco is GELLING. And yet the Ravens got the last laugh. Broncos were one and done.

      • broncos

        what are u talking about the broncos won

  • Dalen Erickson

    This Wade Phillips defense is going to be SAVAGE. Unlike most teams, this switch REALLY benefits their personnel.
    I think this is the position Von was born to play.
    Wares best football was played as an OLB in Wades D.
    I think Wolfe is finally in his true position. Good switch for Jackson as well.
    Quality depth was added with Walker and Smith for the interior. Top 2 or 3 secondary with sick depth. I think Kayvon Webster could be a star if given the chance.
    The ILB position has 2 great starters but is very thin beyond them. Travathan needs to stay healthy or they will have to snag a FA ILB if he goes down.
    The offense took a few steps back. The O-line is a big concern. Losing Franklin, Ramirez and Montgomery as well as Clady going down for the season is going to hurt really bad. Hopefully Samrilo is everything they think he is.
    I expect the Broncs to be a top 5 contender yet again.
    I always root for Peyton and Ware is my favorite player in football (as a Cowboys fan how could he not be) so I hope they do well

    • Chris

      Seconded as far as the defense. IMO they aren’t strong enough at nose, but their starters everywhere else are legit. Malik Jackson is such a stud.

      • Dalen Erickson

        agreed. If they had managed to snag Knighton back or acquire Dan Williams this would be a much better D. Wade Philips defense requires a NT that can create a lot of push. He usually prefers more of a penetrative, pass rushing NT as aposed to the big space eating monster (I.E Jay Ratliff in his years in Dallas) so if Sly can finally reach his potential he would fit that mold.
        I wouldn’t be surprised if they snagged a FA NT if Sly cant step up his play.
        Astute observation my friend.

        • Chris

          Definitely have the strength at ILB to go 3-4 though. And with the addition of Ray, expect to see some crazy looks on 3rd down. Ware kicks inside to with Jackson with Miller and Ray coming off the edge. Something like the Ravens did last year with Suggs, Dumervil, and McPhee.

          • anon76returns

            Smith may be a liability in more than just the run. He’s under investigation right now for child molestation “of a sexual nature”. If he’s guilty I want him off the team.
            But if he turns out to be innocent, he’ll be coming in on 3rd/passing downs to swap out with Wolfe in our nickel look. Malik’s excellent overall, so he’ll play through, but with Wolfe being one of the best against the run and Smith being one of the best against the pass, we should be able to present match up problems from the nickel 4-2-5 even when we don’t have Von/Ware/Ray on the field together, and without teams being able to run at Smith.

          • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

            right, smith’s last place ’14 run grade from a ID player is not cool, disregarding his criminal charges

          • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

            if*** antonio smith even makes the team tho, felony child sex abuse charges are beyond BS, mr. elway must know more than we do at this point regarding those

          • anon76returns

            I think the point is no charges have been made yet. Definitely don’t get rid of the guy if there’s not even enough evidence to bring the case to court. But I don’t think the Broncos should hold themselves to the same standard as the courts here (i.e. “beyond a reasonable doubt”). If they think Smith really did this but got not guilty on a technicality, he should be gone.

          • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

            i feel ya… but he’s an over paid specialist, worst run defense grade of any 4-3 DT in ’14. examples are commonly made of lesser men

          • Dalen Erickson

            Yikes! I didnt know that!

          • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

            technically not charged by the texas DA yet, but he’s currently under investigation

          • Dalen Erickson

            exactly. PFF ranked him really high as a pass rusher but he is definitely a situational guy, no argument there. Hes also not going to get a ton of sacks, mostly just generate pressure up the middle

    • Rick S.

      I think Wade is their biggest acquisition of the off-season.

      Defensively I worry about NT and if their good, but smallish LBs with injury histories (Trevathan, Marshall) can hold up. I love their depth at CB and edge rusher… Von could have a monster season.

      Offense is all about the OL and #18s health. I think the breakout player will be Virgil Green who is essentially a poor mans Vernon Davis.

      • anon76returns

        B Marsh is currently listed at 250 pounds, which, if true, would make him pretty much the biggest starting 3-4 ILB outside of NE. Danny T is listed at 240, which puts him right about the same weight as recent ILB pro bowlers Willis, Bowman, Borland, and CJ Mosley.

        NT is by far the biggest concern on the D, but here’s the optimistic take: Wade loves a penetrating, one-gap front. Both Sly and Austin came into the league with reputations as top-notch penetrators, but JDR wanted space eating 2-gappers. Austin was OK at that last year, once he was finally over his back injury, but Sly struggled. So the hope is that once we ask them both to one gap and penetrate, we’ll finally see the skills that made them both consensus top 20 draft picks as DTs. That’s how I’m looking at it, and I’ll be keeping my fingers crossed.

  • Dalen Erickson

    James Casey has been underutilized his entire career. I think if he was a starter he is good for 700 plus yards with Peyton at QB. Hes got good speed, great hands and is a rock solid blocker. Hes also so versatile having played TE, FB and H-back. He is also a beast on special teams with good tackling and even the ability to block punts. I hope to see him get opportunities this year

    • https://twitter.com/MALACHiOFCOURSE Malachi

      he’s mostly being used as our FB right now, third string TE, and yea he is a beast on STs

      • Dalen Erickson

        agreed

  • Matthole

    Omfg I’m a hawks fan and I can’t believe manning is really good… He should be elite

  • Chris

    Bruton has almost 1000 snaps over 6 years – how does he fall under Not Enough Info? He’s also got the best career coverage grade of any of Denver’s safeties.

    • anon76returns

      Yeah, they copped out a little on some of the “not enough info” grades. Juwan Thompson on offense had 124 snaps and 56 carries- that should be enough to rate him. On defense Marvin Austin had 299 snaps last year (and he had previously carried a rating after only 147 snaps over 3 seasons), Steven Johnson had 251 snaps and 8 starts, Todd Davis had 183 snaps and 2 starts (and played well), Lerentee McCray had 154 snaps (and played very well in them), Omar Bolden had only 49 snaps last year but has 340+ in his career, you already mentioned Bruton, and Cory Nelson had 109 snaps as a rookie. All of those guys got more snaps than Mitch Unrein (he was downgraded from “average” last year to “below average” this year based on 46 snaps), and most had more than Tony Carter’s 87 snaps (he maintained his “below average” ranking).

      • Chris

        Most guys they give the grey tag to have less than 500 career. Bruton having almost 1000 is the most I’ve seen by a long shot.

  • Dalen Erickson

    Jackson rated better than future hall of famer DeMarcus Ware? Well thats just silly

  • Dalen Erickson

    I think this formation switch will REALLy benefit the Broncos personnel. Ive said this already but I think Wolfe and Jackson are finally where they belong. I expect Wolfe, a guy who they havnt been able to really find a place for, will excell here. Ware played his best football in Phillips 3-4 defense. Von is finally in the position he was born to play. Should be a good D this year. They are thin at ILB though. Antonio Smith was a good pickup as well

    • Dalen Erickson

      Ha! I said this already. Im a dummy

  • GESBoulder

    Offense Update 8/8/15 – Broncos are high on Paradis at C, Garcia at LG, Harris is at RT, Sambrailo at LT and Vasquez is back at his natural RG. Kubiak will bellcow Anderson, with Ball behind him, Hillman/Thompson are locked in a battle for the 3rd with Hillman more differentiated but Thompson contributing on ST. Kubiak’s ZB WCO system uses a fullback so the Depth Chart needs a bit of a fix there. The roster bubble guy there is Joe Don Duncan, who played at Dixie State (Utah, good story on the name). He is a 270 pound ball of muscle who wants to run through walls. Denver likes Jensen at inline TE. So there is a bit of a log jam across the specrum of Kubiak system roles stretching from RB to FB to H-Back (proto move TE), to inline TE. At QB, Brock will be the #2, but more and more doubt is developing about him as the post-Manning solution. Dysert and Siemian both have NFL caliber arms but are obviously complete long-shots to matter. At WR, DT has always been a LWR (SE) but I’ll have to check to see if he’s been flip by Kubiak. Latimer has given all indication to have made a big step up. Sanders is solid and can play at several positions. The kids behind them are very telented with Patton being a highlight reel, freakish Lloyd-like body control contesting balls. Caldwell must have pictures of someone in admin. He really should not be kept at the expense of one of these kids.