ReFo: Packers @ Lions, Week 3

Peppers and Bush are among the standout mentions as Roland Bardon has a look at how the Packers-Lions Week 3 matchup turned out.

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2014-REFO-WK03-GB@DET

ReFo: Packers @ Lions, Week 3


2014-REFO-WK03-GB@DETIn this Week 3 matchup, Detroit prevailed over Green Bay 19-7 in a signature win for the Lions. It was their first victory ever over the Aaron Rodgers-led Packers, save for the time he was injured during the game.

Even with their high-powered offense, it was an impressive performance by the Lions’ defense that stood out against their NFC North rivals this time, with both a fumble return-for-touchdown and a safety. They held Rodgers to just 162 yards passing and kept the Green Bay running game in check all day.

The Lions weren’t perfect on offense, with three turnovers of their own, but they were able to do a good job controlling the ball on the ground, keeping the Packers’ offense off the field. A win over Green Bay was one Detroit had to have in order to finally be top dog in their division.

Green Bay Packers – Performances of Note

Julius Peppers, OLB: +2.3

Breakdown: Peppers performed exactly liked the Packers hoped he would when they signed him to his big free agent deal this offseason, wreaking havoc on the opposing quarterback. He did that with aplomb on Sunday, with one sack, two hits and four hurries against Matthew Stafford in just 27 pass rush snaps.

Signature Stat: Peppers’ pass rushing display produced a Pass Rush Productivity of 17.0.

Andrew Quarless, TE: +2.3

Breakdown: One of the few bright spots on offense for the Packers, Quarless had a nice game in both run blocking and receiving. He caught four of five targets for 43 yards and Green Bay’s only touchdown. Most of his damage was done against Lions linebacker DeAndre Levy.

Signature Stat: His +2.3 grade was the highest of his NFL career.

Josh Sitton, LG: -2.8

Breakdown: After combining for a +6.1 overall grade in the first two weeks, Sitton had an off day against the Lions, especially in the running game, where he graded out at -3.2. As a team, the Packers gained just 16 yards on five carries off left guard all game.

Signature Play: Q1, 12:13 remaining. Here, with Eddie Lacy running off Sitton, Nick Fairley gets just enough outside leverage on Sitton to get a swat at Lacy, who coughs up the ball, turning into a Lions’ touchdown.

Detroit Lions – Performances of Note

Nick Fairley, DT: +2.6

Breakdown: The Lions have been waiting for a while for Fairley to live up to all that potential since making him their first round pick in 2011. In the final year of his rookie deal, it’s now or never for the former Auburn product. He flashed plenty of that potential in this game, with two stops on defense along with a hurry and a hit on Rodgers.

Signature Play: Q2, 3:18 remaining: Here Fairley gets such quick penetration on Packers center Corey Linsley that he almost knocks the ball away from Rodgers during his drop-back.

Garrett Reynolds and Cornelius Lucas, RT: -2.4 (combined)

Breakdown: The Lions platooned Reynolds and Lucas at right tackle again this week, and both were disappointing. After Reynolds got the majority of the playing time in Week 2, this time Lucas got 40 of the 75 snaps on offense. Regardless, the results were the same, as they both struggled against the speed rushes of Peppers, and combined to allow one sack, one hit and two hurries on their quarterback.

Signature Stat: Both lineman have Pass Blocking Efficiency ratings under 92, putting them in the bottom 20% of league tackles.

Reggie Bush, RB: +2.2

Breakdown: After grading out at a combined -0.4 in the first two weeks, Bush finally had his breakout game for 2014. He forced four missed tackles (after just one total the first two games) on the way to gaining 61 yards on 12 carries.

Signature Play: Q4, 10:47 remaining. Bush provides the insurance touchdown on a terrific burst around left end, when Packers defensive back Micah Hyde misjudges his speed and loses outside contain on the play.

Game Ball

Without too many individual standout performances, the Lions’ Nick Fairley gets our game ball for all the good work done by the defensive line.

 

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  • Kent Lee Platte

    Who would have called this one? Prior to this week, most people believed the defense was just overachieving against poor offenses. Now it looks like they’re actually that good? Huh.

  • Jason Williams

    what’s up with Green Bay? one good half of offense across three games? hoping they don’t wake up against my Bears

    • GreenMan

      They’re trying that “no huddle” stuff.
      It’s a live or die type of offense (lions had like 15 mins in Time of Possession against us).

      I’d prefer we go back to our normal offense, with a variety of formations – not this 3 WR/1 TE/1 HB formation that everyone expects.

      • Jason Williams

        not sure why you have a TE at all – Quarless made a nice catch yesterday but he doesn’t strike fear into anyone like Finley used to.

        • mutzki

          Quarless is a dependable man, going back to last year. The problem was that the Lions invited the run and the Packers couldn’t run it. Lacy seems hesitant after his concussion. Hope he gets back on track.

          • Jason Williams

            I was just trollin :)

        • Brian Dugan

          Quarless is a great #2. Problem is that we don’t have a #1. I want to see a lot more Brandon Bostick personally. It looked like he was going to be a starter until a preseason injury.

    • Brian Dugan

      They’ve played some tough defensive fronts, but not taking advantage of a crippled Lions secondary yesterday was unbelievable. Rodgers and McCarthy better get it ironed out or your Bears are gonna put us in a 1-3 hole, 0-2 in the division. That would pretty much eliminate all room for error for the rest of the season.

      • Ryan

        The Lions crippled secondary looked better than the Packers, the Packers are paying Sam Shields 10 million a year and he’s been one of the worst corners in the NFL so far.

        • Brian Dugan

          Yeah that’s just absolutely wrong, Ryan. Sam Shields has been pretty good. This very website actually had Sam Shields and Tramon Williams as top 10 CBs so far in the season, just last week… The Packers secondary (and defense overall) was pretty good Sunday. They’re not the reason we lost.

          The Lions secondary was solid. It was more of result of the Lions getting pressure with 4 man rushes and dropping 7 into a zone.

          • Ryan

            According to PFF opposing QB’s throwing against Sam Shields have a QB rating of 153.3. Basically near perfect. He has been garbage.

          • Brian Dugan

            Garbage?! Lol, sheesh. Congratulations Ryan on being brave enough to be so blatantly wrong on a regular basis! I commend you.

          • Ryan

            I’m blatantly wrong for pointing out that Sam Shields has been awful this year, and according to PFF, the site we are on, has stats to back that up? I guess you being such a Packer homer won’t let you see that.

          • Brian Dugan

            Yup, I know you struggle with reading and reasoning Ryan, but PFF logged Sam Shields as the 10th best CB in the entire NFL just last week based on their game grading. So he played so bad in the Lions game that he went from 10th best to one of the worst CBs? I don’t think so.

            You have so much hate for the Packers… could it be because Aaron Rodgers missed half of the year last year and the Packers STILL won the division.

          • eYeDEF

            It’s really too early to draw any conclusions but Sam Shields does have the second highest passer rating against at 153.3 of 96 cornerbacks graded. Joe Haden is tops at 155.3 so at least you can say Shields is in pro bowl company. His overall grade however is tied for 11th in the league right now, primarily because his 3.2 grade in the green against Seattle is keeping it floating and along with consistently solid run support. His pass coverage grade however is lower and tied for 20th in the league. Against Detroit (6 rec, 6 TA,106 yards, 1 ST, 6 Tks), vs Jets(2 rec, 4 TA, 36 yards, 1 TD, 52 YAC, 2 Tks, 1 PD), vs Seattle (2 rec, 4 TA, 36 yards, 23 YAC, 1 TD, 2 Tks, 1 ST, 1 PD).

            Again, way too small a sample size so far and it’s easy to excuse his 46 yards conceded against Megatron. Harder to excuse 52 yard reception to Corey Fuller and touchdowns surrendered to guys named Jeremy Kerley and Ricardo Lockette. His 71.4% passes caught when targeted is currently tied for 29th.

          • Ryan

            So Brian, do you think a CB with a rating of 153.3 is good? A player getting 10 million a year shouldn’t be getting beat consistently.

            Shields had a decent week 1, even though he blew coverage that caused a TD. Other than that, he’s been pretty bad.

  • Dohkay

    LaAdrian Waddle please come back soon. Stafford might not be able to walk in another week or two with Reynolds/Lucas allowing everyone free entry into the pocket.

  • Eric O. Nelson, III

    Now THAT was a beatdown! Imagine if Stafford doesn’t fumble at the 9 yard line and Freese makes his FG attempt. No one talking about the Packers dominating this series any more, Lions have won last 2 games, and of course SWEPT the Bears last year. Times are a changing…..

    • Brian Dugan

      Look at the Lions salary situation. *Spoiler alert* times are not a changing. Congrats on 2 straight wins by the way and 0 playoff wins in many fans lifespans.

      • Matthew Malek

        Sadly you are correct. The Lions future is unclear. But for this season….it looks like neither the Packer or the Bears have the combined Offense/Defense to compete with the Lions over the coarse of the season. Injuries could derail it….but the Lions have the most well rounded team in the division. Even if its not a super bowl contender. It could be enough to win a division and a playoff game against a weak NFC East Defense that luckily gets into the playoffs. Thats better than any Lions fan I know was hoping for this year. Sadly Mayhew won’t be fired…and we will be back to 4-12 next year.

        • Brian Dugan

          I can’t argue with anything you said, Matthew. I would just caution that this season is still very young and the Lions did play at home on Sunday. But I agree that the Lions are legitimate. I thought they were going to take the next step the last few years.

          • mutzki

            Exactly. 3 games into the season is by no means a measuring stick. This is the third season in a row the Packers started 1-2 and the two past years they won the division, albeit with luck.

      • Ryan

        Brian, Ted Thompson has drafted like garbage the past 4-5 years and it’s showing.

        • Brian Dugan

          Garbage is pretty strong. He hasn’t hit his own lofty standards, but some GMs should be so lucky as to have a “bad Ted Thompson draft.”

          • Ryan

            Not really. Ted has missed quite a bit in the past few years, he has one of the lowest percentage of draft picks that are still on the team over the past few years. ESPN did a story in the spring on draft pick percentages and the Packers were at the bottom.

          • Brian Dugan

            But the Packers have the most home-grown roster in the NFL, hmm… explain this. But your probably right, Ted Thompson is bad at his job; that’s why they’re one of the most successful franchises of the last decade.

          • Josh Knepshield

            B.J. Raji has been one of the worst DL in football the last 2 seasons, Derek Sherrod flat out sucks, Nick Perry can’t get on the field and is ineffective when he does, Jerel Worthy sucks and is out of football, A.J. Hawk is Ted Thompson’s man-crush and is one of the worst ILBs in the NFL against the pass. Just because players are still on the roster, does not make them good.
            In the last decade, the Packers have won 1 superbowl, and have won a total of 5 playoff games, with 3 coming in 1 season. How exactly is that super successful? Especially with 4 years of not winning over 8 games in that span.

          • Brian Dugan

            Hey Josh, cherry picking a few drafts picks is fun! Also, other GMs in the NFL don’t have any bad draft picks. Do you realize how long Ted Thompson has been the GM? He’s also found WRs Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, Randall Cobb, and Davante Adams in the 2nd, James Jones in the 3rd; ask Bill Belichick if he’d like just one of those WRS.. Ted has also found guys like Josh Sitton and Mike Daniels in the 4th, took Aaron Rodgers and Clay Matthews in the late 1st, and is the king of undrafted free agents…I could go on.

            Regarding the last decade, ask the Lion, Bears, Vikings, heck the Texans, Falcons, well most NFL teams if they’d like those results. Most teams would consider that a golden era. You’re comparing the Packers overall success in the last 10 years to their very extreme highs and I have to say, it’s a wildly ineffective argument.

          • Ryan

            Brian, no one is denying that Ted Thompson early on had some success, he’s just failed at drafting the past 4 years or so. He’s had bust after bust lately.

          • Josh Knepshield

            You call cherry picking, then you say DeVante Adams is a draft success? A guy who couldn’t even beat out Jarrett Boykin in camp and dropped a considerable amount of passes is now a draft success? Nice argument there.
            If you don’t count the SB season, the Packers have won TWO playoff games in the last decade! In what universe is that ineffective?

          • Brian Dugan

            This guy says “… if you don’t count the SB season…” So you’re saying if you don’t count a team’s best season in the decade, it lowers the profile of their success for that decade? Unbelievable. You’re not so bright, huh?

            You and Ryan probably touch yourselves to Aaron Rodgers breaking his clavicle… oh wait the Packers STILL won the division last year.

          • Josh Knepshield

            Wow, you are dumb. The Packers have more playoff losses than wins when you take away the SB season. The Packers have won the NFC North a “dominant” 4 times in the last decade. Not to mention the plethora of draft busts in the last half decade. Continue to stroke yourself, and continue to accept the mediocrity your team has handed you, 1-2 says a little don’t it.

          • Ryan

            Most successful franchise in the last decade, on what basis? lol Do they have the most SB in the past decade…no.

            More of that vintage Packer homer coming out.

          • Brian Dugan

            I don’t recall saying the Packers were the most successful franchise in the last decade. One of them? Absolutely, that’s not even up for debate.

          • eYeDEF

            Word on Lombardi Way is that Thompson lost his ability to draft when his personnel aide and real brains behind his drafting acumen split for the GM job in Seattle. The results of their respective drafts ever since speaks for itself.

  • mutzki

    I’m curious what Bush’s grade was up until that 26 yard TD run well into the fourth quarter, because up to that point the Packers D had the Lions run game bottled up, but with TOP so much in the Lions favor defensive players were starting to wear out.

    • Brian Dugan

      This is an excellent point.