ReFo: Browns @ Bengals, Week 10

The Browns scored a victory over their in-state rivals on Thursday night and Khaled Elsayed breaks down the key performers, including both quarterbacks.

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ReFo: Browns @ Bengals, Week 10

2014-REFO-WK10-CLE@CINThis isn’t your Cleveland Browns of recent years.

With the eyes of the nation on them and most expecting them to revert to type, the Mike Pettine led team dominated the Cincinnati Bengals from the moment Jermaine Gresham sat down too late on his crossing route and Craig Robertson scored the first turnover of the game.

It was impressive on both sides of the ball, with the line generating the kind of movement their backs needed and their defense getting physical up front. It was the complete display and one that continues to make the Browns one of the 2014 feel good stories.

Cleveland Browns – Performances of Note

Joe Thomas, LT: +4.9

Breakdown: Across any position, Joe Thomas is perhaps the standout player of the past 7 years. Unrivalled excellence matched with remarkable consistency, this game showcased the type of player he is. Flawless throughout, his impact in the running game setting up cutback lanes and widening what happens playside is rarely talked about, but so much fun to watch.

Signature Stat: Didn’t allow a single pressure all game. The fourth time this year.

Paul Kruger, OLB: +5.0

Breakdown: He may have been relatively tame while mic’d up, but he was anything but from the moment the ball was snapped. He started early with some opening drive work on Gresham in the run game and never let up, ending the day with four hurries, a hit and a batted pass.

Signature Play: With 1.03 left in the first half Kruger sails past Marshall Newhouse to record a hit on the quarterback.

Brian Hoyer, QB: +2.6

Breakdown: In a game like this all Hoyer had to do was avoid turnovers and the Browns lines on both sides of the ball would take care of the rest. He did that, and then added a little more to make anyone talking about a quarterback change look foolish. Pressured on just three of his 24 dropbacks, Hoyer was sharp throughout, mastering the conditions in a manner his opposite number could only dream of.

Signature Play: There are throws you can watch over and over again, and Hoyer hit one with 6.37 to go in Q3. Gary Barnidge had a step on Reggie Nelson, but his perfectly thrown back shoulder ball ensured George Iloka couldn’t get over the top to break it up.

Cincinnati Bengals – Performances of Note

Andy Dalton, QB: -7.7

Breakdown: There was an element of bad luck to each of the picks thrown by Dalton, yet so bad was he outside of these that he earned his misfortunate with a display full of bad moments. Any day you complete 30.3% of passes you know it’s a bad one, and while you’d like to blame the wind, you only need to look at the performance of Hoyer to know it shouldn’t have been as much of a factor as Dalton let it be.

Signature Stat: His adjusted accuracy percentage score of 42.9% is the lowest score of any quarterback this season.

George Iloka, S: +3.0

Breakdown: One of the few Bengals to leave this game with any credit, Iloka is one of the least heralded safeties in the league, but one of the better ones. He added another pass break up to his tallying, bring him to three picks and five other pass defenses on the year.

Signature Play: Timing is everything and Iloka proves it with 5.04 to go in the 1st. He breaks on a well thrown ball by Brian Hoyer to deflect a pass intended for Miles Austin.

Marshall Newhouse, RT: -6.6

Breakdown: No real surprise here as Newhouse had his typical game, struggling pass protection and forcing the team to adjust by giving him extra help. That left center Russell Bodine in some unfavorable matchups, but such was the mismatch of Newhouse versus any Browns pass rusher, it had to be done.

Signature Play: He may have expected help from his right guard, but there’s no excuse for getting beat as quickly off the snap as Newhouse did with 11.36 to go in Q3. Bryant went past him as if he wasn’t there on his way to the first of back to back sacks.

PFF Game Ball

The left side of the Browns line is a fantastic watch for any football fan, and no linemen in the league is playing better than Joe Thomas. He was superb in this one.


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  • Chris

    Man, Dalton earned every bit of that -6.2.

    • Jay

      I have to say he is one of my most disappointing players in the league. He flashes so much agility at times but far too often he puts forth these types of performance.

  • Dr. Martin van Nostrand

    I thought Dalton would be even worse than -6.2. That almost seems mild.

    • Chris

      It’s because the picks looked as terrible as the rest of his throws but his receivers were actually at fault for all 3 of those.

      The picks don’t bother me. I can deal with bad luck. What bothers me is the total lack of accuracy and sailing so many throws. He looked worse than Brandon Weeden last night.

      • Ben

        The last pick probably could (should?) have been a completion. What’s crazy is it if was, his passer rating would have gone up by a factor of 10. (2 to 21)

    • Jason Williams

      Here are Dalton’s 10 completions (this is not pretty) :

      (9:37) A.Dalton
      pass short left to A.Green to CIN 35 for 5 yards (J.Haden).

      (2:40) (Shotgun) A.Dalton pass short
      middle to J.Hill to CIN 34 for 6 yards (D.Whitner; K.Dansby).

      (12:51) (Shotgun) A.Dalton pass short
      right to A.Green to CIN 47 for 11 yards (J.Haden; D.Whitner).

      (11:17) A.Dalton pass short middle to
      J.Gresham to CIN 34 for 8 yards (K.Dansby; T.Gipson).

      (3:11) (Shotgun) A.Dalton pass short left
      to R.Burkhead to CIN 23 for 8 yards (K.Dansby; K.Williams).

      (13:13) (Shotgun) A.Dalton pass short
      left to M.Sanu to CIN 37 for 2 yards (B.Skrine).

      (4:26) (Shotgun) A.Dalton pass short
      middle to J.Gresham to CIN 49 for 15 yards (J.Leonhard).

      (14:41) (Shotgun) A.Dalton pass short
      right to J.Gresham to CIN 26 for 6 yards (K.Williams; J.Leonhard).

      (12:58) (Shotgun) A.Dalton pass short
      middle to M.Sanu to CLV 41 for 18 yards (K.Williams).

      (12:19) (Shotgun) A.Dalton pass short
      middle to A.Green to CLV 34 for 7 yards (P.Taylor).

  • Larry Keltto

    I love the analysis. You guys do an amazing job. But the number of copy-editing mistakes that are made in your articles boggles my mind.

  • Jason Williams

    I’m still boggled equally by how bad Dalton was (I mean even Rex Grossman never had games like THAT) and what this means for the Browns – they are a legit playoff contender – that’s crazy.

    • Tim Edell

      So much for your Browns have no chance in this game as they haven’t played anyone synopsis.. Nevermind that they had beaten both the Saints and the Steelers this year. Granted they have played one of the easier schedules in the league but when you have an OL as dominating as they do, even without Mack, your going to be in alot of games as long as they don’t turn the ball over.

      • Jason Williams

        I feel like all you people who are shooting me down have never witnessed a complete Cleveland Browns season. The Browns ALWAYS do this. They beat the Patriots a few years ago when the Patriots were REALLY good and they still managed to tank the rest of the season. That was who the Browns were – I sincerely hope that a personality transplant is complete but until I see it for a couple years, I’m reluctant to believe.

        • wolfey

          you havent watched the browns this year if you cant see the difference this time around.

          • Jason Williams

            please explain to me what the Browns do that’s different this year. Their offense is borderline mediocre. The only thing that’s working in their favor is that Hoyer is not throwing a ton of picks.

  • Troll Chris

    I wonder if Chris is still a bandwagon Bengals fan?

    • Chris

      LOL care to explain?

  • SeattleSteve

    Newhouse and McDonald weren’t good enough offensive line players to make the packer’s roster (The Packers!)… why would any team go after them?