Cam Newton closing in on title of best NFL QB

Sam Monson joins Neil Hornsby to break down the play of Cam Newton and decide whether or not he is the best QB in the league.

| 11 months ago
(AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)

(AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)

Cam Newton closing in on title of best NFL QB


Senior Analyst Sam Monson and PFF founder Neil Hornsby believe Cam Newton is one of the most unique players they’ve ever seen. The two also discuss where he ranks right now compared to the rest of the quarterbacks in the NFL.

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  • ModeBeast

    Odd, the guy loses games for most of his career, yet suddenly he is the greatest QB ever. Oh yeah, they have Scottish accents, so they are not credible.

    • ElwayIsGod7

      Odd, this guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about, yet comments anyways…

      • mormonrock124

        But its a valid point. This is very much Colin Kapernick hype. Cam has been 6-10, 7-9, 7-8-1, in 3 of his 5 seasons and has exactly 1 seasons with over 4,000 yds passing and a completion percentage over 60% and during this time his teams defense has been no worse than 10th or better in 4 of 5 years, so yeah putting the title of Best QB in NFL or saying he’s close to it is pretty funny. He needs to do more over a longer period of time than just one great year.

        • jdb1972

          Posting “QB winning percentage” as a meaningful stat makes baby PFF cry.

        • JudoPrince

          6-10 and 7-9 were the records after his first two seasons…significant improvements following the 2-14 season the year before he came on. The 7-8-1 season ended up winning their division and the year before that the team went 12-4. The Panthers are 17-1 this year, one of the best records in NFL history. You may not like Cam but saying he isn’t a winner is rather bogus. By the way, the 4000 yds passing mark is irrelevant when you RUSH for 600+ yards just about every year. When you gain yards in both passing and running, it just speaks further toward your dominance.

          • mormonrock124

            By all statistical measurements he ranks outside the top 10 other than of course PFF rankings which are not consistent with all other measurements being used. He can run the football which is great trait and he certainly had had a great season but that season was ok at best by week 9 and Cam’s team is 17-1 in part because of his play and in part because of a top flight D that has consistently been ranked inside the top 10 since 2012. Offensively the Panthers have been ranked as low as 27 and as high as 11. That wouldn’t tell me Cam is the best QB in the NFL or even close to the that title.

            He has had a great season, but its his first great season and even when you add his rushing yds he still would be 7th in total yds with 6 other QB’s ahead of him.

          • JudoPrince

            “By all statistical measurements he ranks outside the top 10….”

            I don’t know what statistics you go by but here is the deal. Cam has accounted for 45 total TDs this season. Yes, 45. He has a 35/10 passing TD to INT ratio. He has accounted for over 4,400 yards both rushing and throwing. He has a QB rating of 100 this year. What flaw can you possibly point to in his game? His mere 60% completion percentage — despite having an underwhelming receiving core that were in the top 10 in drops this year?

            If you have been watching Cam’s growth, and it’s clear you have not, none of this is a surprise. He’s been one of the single biggest offensive threats in the league since day one, amassing ridiculous touchdown totals over a 5 year span. As of today Newton has 160 TDs since 2011, along with over 21,000 yards accounted for. You probably were in denial of Cam eventually becoming a top notch QB, but this outcome was inevitable ever since he posted 400 yards in his rookie debut. Cam is officially great; just accept it and move on.

          • mormonrock124

            Carolina Panthers total offense ranks since 2011 Cam’s rookie season: 2011 7th, 2012 12th, 2013 26th, 2014 16th, and 2015 11th. Passing rankings since 2011: 13th, 16th, 29th, 19th, and 24th. In addition he ranks outside the top 10 in passing yds, completion %, yds per game and outside of the top 5 in all other categories but TD passes where he is tied with Palmer, Manning and Bortles.

            Yes he offers great running ability which is a great asset and makes up for some of his inabilities as a passer but the stats say he isn’t a great passer, which is a big part of the QB position. Russel Wilson is a great example to look at in regard to Cam Newton. Russel benefited tremendously from having an elite D and used his legs and a superior running game to lead the Seahawks. This year they relied on him more and he delivered after some hiccups earlier in the year. In almost every category Wilson is better than Cam.

            Cam relies on his defense and his legs more than his arm, so to make the leap of Cam being the best QB right now is a stretch. The article alludes to him being the best right now and I disagree. I’ve watched every Panthers game and I’ve seen every game since 2011. Cam has had some hiccups and has made plenty of strides but right now there are several QB’s ahead of him and Wilson would be one of them.

            I’ve also never said he wasn’t great, but I just say you can’t say he will be the greatest in the NFL when he has had only one great season. He followed up rookie year by regressing. When a QB has great year everyone rushes to judge him the next best thing like they did with Kapernick, so take off your fan glasses and relax.

          • JudoPrince

            So basically all of those “statistical measurements” you were referring to earlier are centered around passing yards. That type of stat destroys your argument; any casual follower of football understands that simple passing yards is fairly meaningless when evaluating the true performance of a QB. Especially coming from a person commenting on a Pro Football Focus blog.

          • mormonrock124

            Well most QB’s need to actually be good at passing, so its certainly not irrelevant. However a QB that ranks 7th, 9th, and 4th in 3 different measurements tracking the overall skill level doesn’t rank 1st, so that would destroy your argument which apparently is Cam is the greatest QB of all time. He has had exactly one great year, so projecting him to be the games best is still a stretch.

            When you look at QB’s who have made the jump from good to great to best in the game their respective teams are consistently ranked in the top 10 offensively year in and year out. Right now Cam’s offense do not do that, so again my overall point is he is a lot of room to go before hes the games best or considered the games best. Right now he has had 1 great year.

          • JudoPrince

            I agree that he is not the greatest QB of all time. Yet. I am saying that he could easily be considered the top QB in the game after this season. A Superbowl win on Sunday would complete one of the greatest season’s in NFL history. Until there is actual evidence in the future showing true regression, Newton is currently at the top.

            And once again you are bringing up offensive team rankings, which is based on passing yards alone. As I mentioned in my previous comment, using passing yards to heavily weigh a QB’s performance is faulty for a myriad of reasons….yet that is clearly your main argument. It’s simply not a convincing metric to draw from when trying to justify Cam not being the best in the game right now.

          • mormonrock124

            Ok man you lost me. Total offense isn’t a clear enough metric, multiple passing statistics aren’t clear enough, but PFF says so I guess its true. They don’t weigh certain stats more heavily than others…got it.

            His 45 total TD’s were literally 4 more than Brady and 7 more than Bortles. They aren’t the most ever in the NFL, so other QB’s have had more impressive seasons with more impressive overall stats, which isn’t to diminish his year at all because again he has had a great year. I’m only saying he will need to do more to earn the title of best QB in the NFL as opposed to be given the title which I think you are doing.

  • Daqwuanl Leach

    It’s the best qb in the nfl. It’s not the qb with the least amount of losses before the season. If losses in the past were any indication of how good a qb currently is, it would be irrelevant to play football after only 2 or 3 losing seasons.

  • NailGun

    He’s not the best QB. Not even close. If the Packers offered to trade Rodgers for Cam straight up I guarantee the Panthers would jump at that chance. Cam is an average passer.

    • ElwayIsGod7

      I don’t think average means what you think it means.

    • JudoPrince

      So the Panthers would trade the player they’ve invested heavily in the last 4 years, after watching him win league MVP and lead his team to a Super Bowl? For a player who is 6 years older? Do you watch football?

      • NailGun

        after that super bowl performance I bet they would.

    • JT

      Lol Rodgers might be better but Cam is 26 years old a owner would have to be on meth to trade him after a season like this….

  • 24AHAD

    Cam Newton wouldn’t be a top 5 qb in the nfl on any nfl gms top 5. He is not very accurate with ball placement but completes many passes due to his arm strength. He has a great o line. Watch Cam in shotgun he will catch the snap then go into a 3 or 5 step drop, think about the time he gives himself before the rush gets there by distancing himself from the line of scrimmage like that. Yet he unlike most for 1. Has the mobility to make a play and not have a 12 yard sack drive killer because of his big drop and 2. Has the arm strength to make the big drop and yet it hardly effects his timing or ability to complete passes.

  • NailGun

    the real Cam showed up for the super bowl.