Why Russell Wilson is a top-5 NFL QB

The Seattle Seahawks quarterback deserves to be in the conversation among the NFL's top-tier signal-callers.

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Why Russell Wilson is a top-5 NFL QB

The Seattle Seahawks’ resurgence began with the hiring of Pete Carroll in January of 2010, but it wasn’t until Russell Wilson was added in the third round of the 2012 NFL draft that Seattle became a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

Wilson’s rare combination of athleticism and arm talent make him a nightmare to defend. He might not be the best pure passer in the league, but he is also far from a one-dimensional running QB. Scrambling quarterbacks have had success in the NFL, but it’s frequently short-lived. Wilson’s balanced skill set makes him more difficult to game-plan against, and less susceptible to injuries.

Simply put, he belongs in the conversation with the best signal-callers in the league. In Sam Monson’s ranking of the top 100 players in the NFL right now, which will be published on PFF next week, Wilson cracks the top five among quarterbacks, edging out the likes of Drew Brees and Carson Palmer and ranking just behind guys like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers.

Let’s take a look at the two big reasons why he is now a top-5 NFL QB.

1. Elusiveness in the backfield

Wilson is not simply a running threat, but his elusiveness in the backfield is a major part of his game. Few quarterbacks possess his kind of ability outside of the scripted offense. Vision and decision-making both stand out, along with the freakish athleticism.

That’s just as well, because the offensive line’s pass protection in Seattle has been a major issue since Wilson was drafted. The strategy of drafting raw prospects for the line, who are subsequently allowed to walk in free agency once they’ve achieved a level of competency, has not proved unsuccessful. Thankfully for the Seahawks, however, Wilson is one of the few quarterbacks capable of handling immediate interior pressure. In fact, he does more than simply handle it.

The play below is a drive-ending sack for 99 percent of quarterbacks—Wilson is the exception. Instant interior pressure forces him into scramble mode, where he breaks two tackles and fires a strike for a first down.


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Unblocked rushers face an equally difficult job bringing down the electric QB. He makes the following play look easy, sidestepping the unblocked rusher before completing a pass for a first down along the sideline.

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An inability to contain Wilson with four rushers places extra pressure on the back seven. Coverage defenders are forced to respect the threat he poses on the ground, abandoning their responsibilities.

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The demoralizing effect for a defense of missing a sack prior to a big play should not be understated.

2. Ability as a traditional passer

As effective as Wilson can be in the open field, he remains capable of functioning as a more traditional passer. His range of attributes make him one of the best in the game. Wilson is one of the top among quarterbacks in terms of accuracy, ranking in the top three in accuracy percentage, deep accuracy, and accuracy under pressure last season.

While Wilson’s impressive numbers under pressure are partly due to his ability to extend plays, there are plenty of examples of him making plays from the pocket. The 5-foot-11 quarterback can stand tall in the pocket, throwing with precision despite defenders in his face. Take the following play against Carolina in the Divisional Championship game as an example:

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Overall, he was accurate on 71.6 percent of his attempts under pressure in 2015 (third-best among NFL QBs), generating 1,625 yards with nine touchdowns to just four picks.

The above play also illustrates Wilson’s downfield touch and precision. Again, he ranked third in that category, throwing accurately on nearly half of his 20-plus yard passes (49.2 percent). Combined with an aggressive mentality, it makes Wilson one of the most dangerous big-play quarterbacks. No stat better illustrates that fact than his league-leading 15 touchdowns generated from deep passes.

In general, Wilson’s accuracy is underrated. When targeting a receiver, he threw accurately on 78.4 percent of attempts. Only Teddy Bridgewater and Kirk Cousins were more consistently on target.

Bottom line

Wilson poses a threat at every level of the defense. He has the athleticism to extend plays in the backfield, the accuracy to move the chains in the short-game, and the arm to threaten vertically. Defensive coordinators face the unenviable task of trying to stop a quarterback who can damage them in a variety of ways. Forcing him to throw from the pocket is barely a preferable strategy. While Seattle continue to employ a healthy Wilson under center, they will remain a postseason contender.

Wilson isn’t quite at the level of Brady or Rodgers, but right now he is a top-five quarterback in the league.

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John joined the PFF team in 2008, providing focused analysis on the NFL draft, team-building strategies, and positional value.

  • crosseyedlemon

    Excellent analysis John. The diversity of Wilson’s style is a major headache for coaches trying to defend against him. Wilson might not be as good as Brady or Rodgers but if all 3 were in the CFL there’s no question who would rule.

    • Darnell

      Though he still has time and could very well get to that TB/AR level.

      A number of objective measures suggest Wilson is the best ever through his first 4 years.

      • Anthony Schroeder

        Yea the only issue with that is most of those “through first 4 years” are explicitly stated in a fashion that excludes (or highly diminishes) players like AR (and to a lesser extent TB) who sat for extended periods of time. Thus I highly prefer the “first X starts” moniker which indeed does have Wilson in ELITE status, but AR blows everyone to shreds there.

        • Dale GoDawgs McLerran

          But there is a learning curve to sitting on the bench for three years, practicing week in and week out against NFL talent, playing in pre-season games, and coming into a few live games even if it is in garbage time, no? Recall, too, that Wilson started his career game one of his rookie season even though he started the pre-season third on the QB depth chart. That means Wilson had very little chance to work with the #1 unit on offense before he started live game play. And given that Wilson is only about three points behind Rodgers in career passer rating AND has played a top 10 schedule of opposing defenses every year for a team that has done little to provide him with top-end receivers while putting an atrocious O-Line in front of him, I question whether Rodgers first 64 games really were any better.

          • Anthony Schroeder

            With all due respect, he was going up against two career backups and before even the third preseason game he was the official starter… Neither of those players started another game in the league (outside of GB rofl).

            I’d also take the O-line Wilson has had his first 64 games ANY DAY OF THE WEEK over that which Rodgers had (until about 2013). He also has NEVER had a top 10 rushing offense (which might seem good, until you consider outside 2011, GB has run the ball more than half of the teams in the league).

            I’ll concede the WR point with the very small mention that no GB WR has succeeded out of GB while Rodgers has been a starter, and I mean shit, Rodger’s #1 receiver last year was kicked off three different teams and won’t start another game in the NFL likely ever again, so I think people’s perceptions about the amazeballs-ness of GB’s WR corp is widely over-exaggerated.

            Just keep these stats in mind over the next two seasons as Wilson reaches the 100 start marker…

            “QB Aaron Rodgers started his 100th career regular-season game on Monday night. He ranks No. 1 in NFL history for TD passes (222), passing yards (27,520), zero-INT games (58), 100-plus passer rating games (60), passer rating (107.3) and TD/INT ratio (4.11, 222-54) in a quarterback’s first 100 starts.”

            Through 64 games (and extrapolated to 100 game rates in parenthesis) Wilson is at 118 combined TDs (184), 14k passing yards (22k), 3.11 TD/INT ratio. Passer Rating (101.8).

            Those TD and passing yard numbers look pretty decent considering he lobs about 15% fewer times than AR per game consistently though career (well AR is a consistent 32/g and RW is 27 and still increasing), but even still it’s a big-ish gap considering 2015 was by FAR RW’s best season (and it was a very good one).

            But lets try to reminder that Wilson inherited probably the single coziest rookie QB role/team in the last 30-50 years of NFL football (although obviously huge kudos to him bringing the focus at SEA more and more on the offense.)

            Don’t get me wrong, I have no issues saying RW is at least a top 5 QB today. I just don’t think we have seen quite enough to start going around with the “best start to career monikers”.

            This is an aside, but I still lord over my father (insanely huge Packers fan in Wi that thought Flynn was in), that I called not only Flynn to SEA, but ALSO Wilson to SEA, AND Wilson starting quarterback right after the GB-DET game.

            I know that had to have been insane luck and not like “I am God”, but damn it feels good to get that spot on when NO one had been talking about @SEA being the deal.

          • Dale GoDawgs McLerran

            Wilson still didn’t get starter reps until halfway through the pre-season. He didn’t get to go through training camp as the #1 QB and it was just before game three of pre-season that Wilson got named as starter. Wilson really was thrown in without the usual preparation for a rookie starter. That is undeniable. Rodgers had a LOT more preparation before he became a starter.

            As far as that great running game that supports Wilson, you realize that Marshawn Lynch had a career YPC average of 3.99 from 2007-2011, 36th in the league among RBs with at least 500 carries over those 5 years. In 2011, Lynch averaged 4.22 YPC, 31st in the league among RBs with 100+ rushing attempts. The Seahawks as a team ranked 23rd in YPC in 2011. Lynch was just about out of the league.

            In 2012, Lynch suddenly became Beastmode. What happened in 2012? The QB keeper became such a threat that defenses had to slow their pursuit of Seahawks RBs or risk running themselves out of the play. In addition, D-Lines had to set up with wider spacings in order to protect the edge. That means more gaps for Lynch to run through. I know the popular meme is that Lynch was the All-Pro who carried the Seahawks and opened things up for Wilson. That simply isn’t correct. Wilson opened things up for Lynch. This is not my analysis. Tom Cable, Seahawks O-Line coach and architect of the Seahawks running game, has stated that Lynch needed Wilson.

            Since you did acknowledge that Rodgers has had more talent at WR, I won’t pursue that further except to note that from 2013 on, the Seahawks have averaged 5 UDFA receivers each year. Somehow, they all seem to outperform their draft profile.

            Certainly, Wilson is unlikely to challenge Rodger’s passing volume statistics. Wilson is constrained by Pete Carroll’s system that employs an old-style balanced offense with slightly more rushing attempts than passing attempts. That means that Wilson will have fewer opportunities per game to put up those volume stats. There are really two reasons why Wilson will have lower volume stats. First, less than half of the Seahawk snaps will be passing plays compared to approximately 70% of GB snaps. And since the clock doesn’t stop as often for running plays, the Seahawks (and Seahawks opponents) have fewer snaps per game.

            It’s nice that you chose to use Rodger’s marks for 100 games when Wilson is at just 64 games for his career – even though you previously stated that a 64 game start should be employed to compare QBs. So, how about if we use the 64 game mark. At the 64 game mark, Wilson and Rodger passing stat lines were/are as follows:

            Wilson: 1123/1735 (64.7%), 106 TDs (6.1%), 34 picks (2.0%), passer rating=101.8.

            Rodgers: 1276/1940 (65.8%), 118 TDs (6.1%), 36 picks (1.9%), passer rating=103.6

            Rodgers’ has slightly better rates. But Rodgers played for a GB team that put a premium on offense and supported Rodgers with better players. Rodgers also had just one season where he played a top-10 schedule of opposing defenses according to Football Outsiders. In the seasons he started leading to those 64 games, GB played defensive schedules ranked 14th, 31st, 9th, and 26th. In contrast, Wilson with less support at WR faced defensive schedules ranked 3rd, 9th, 9th, and 9th. You don’t suppose that a softer schedule and better receivers would give Rodger’s stats the slight bump that we see here, do you?

            As far as your comments about O-Lines, the Seahawks have had absolutely atrocious O-line play. The Seahawks are trotting out for their O-Line guys who played defense in college. Unger and Okung were good at center and LT, respectively, when they weren’t hurt. The problem is that they were forever playing hurt. The last couple of year, when he was on the field, Okung was grabbing DE’s as they were racing by him. It is simply ludicrous to claim that GB was at any kind of disadvantage on the O-Line. O-Line has been the weakest link on the Seahawks team – by far.

            Now, it is absolutely true that the Seahawks have had a great defense during Wilson’s four years in the league. But they should have a great defense when they spend a lot more of their salary cap dollars on the defensive side. That said, the Seahawks offense has ranked as a top-5 offense in Football Outsiders efficiency statistics three of the four years that Wilson has been at QB, and top-10 the other year. They have regularly had one of the best time-of-possession lines in the league. When the offense is on the field about 3 minutes/game more than the defense year in and year out, that helps the defense come out rested and able to fly to the ball when they are on the field.

            So, let’s summarize the cushy situation that Wilson inherited:
            1) a RB who was one of the worst in the league (rather like Trent Richardson)
            2) a team that commits few resources on offense, putting about 5 UDFA receivers on the field for Wilson to throw to
            3) a team that has put converted D-Line players on the O-Line
            4) a team that by virtue of the scheduling Gods has played a top-10 schedule of opposing defenses every year that Wilson has been in the league

            That is some kind of cushy situation for putting up great QB stats! From where I sit, the very slight advantage Rodgers has in rate statistics through 64 games balanced against the MORE DIFFICULT SITUATION for Wilson makes it basically a draw.

          • Anthony Schroeder

            I’m going to be blatantly honest here… I didn’t do 64 games through because it didn’t line up with any single season and I didn’t want to sift through numbers to put things together (also as a genuine question did you do starts or 64 games played? I think AR’s only significant non-garbage playtime was a 2007 loss to the Giants before starting.) AR’s 100 start headlines were much more readily available.

            You bring up quite a few great points, and outside of the RB situation I have almost nothing to say about it (I mean Ryan Grant being not awful for the first two seasons with Rodgers was the closest thing to a run game GB has had in AR’s entire tenure). Additionally, GB actually hasn’t been that pass happy in McCarthy’s tenure (according to sportingcharts.com , it has been remarkably consistent around 43-45% rush, outside of the 2011 season which was 41%). As I will freely admit this is quite a bit less than the generally league (or very near to) leading SEA runs at around 50-55%.

            It is interesting to note that for both QB’s their 4th full year as a starter was by far their best ones up to that point (including AR’s first MVP).

          • Danny

            The one thing that can’t be denied that I think matters more than anything else is that he finds a way to win. We’ve decided what makes a good quarterback but to me the best is the quarterback that wins the most. If Wilson has a long enough career he could very well become the winningest qb in the history of the NFL

          • Anthony Schroeder

            Ehh, there are 51 other players on the roster for a reason, and the QB is only likely on the field for half the game. Winning is huge, but it clearly shouldn’t be everything, just as playoffs shouldn’t be anything (or by those metrics Bart Starr is hands and feet above everyone else in history, which doesn’t quite sit right with me.)

          • monkey

            To be fair, even though I agree with everything that Dale GoDawgs McCllaren said, I have to say that Rogers running back situation hasn’t been very good the whole time he’s been there, and neither has his offensive line.
            Early on in his career, he did the same thing that Wilson has done, holding the ball too long, and he got sacked a lot as a result.
            But even after he stopped doing that, his o-line has still been very bad.
            Now that’s not to say it’s been as bad as the Seahawks line has, IT HAS NOT! I’m just saying that Rogers, in all fairness, has had a craptacular line to work behind, and not much for a run game either.
            Rogers is simply amazing. No way around that, and right now, I’d still say he’s the games best QB. But Wilson isn’t far behind, he’s really not. And watch this year as Wilson makes yet another leap forward in his understanding of the game, and really puts into practice his newfound trust in his reads, all year long.
            I am fully expecting a MVP type of season from Wilson this year., even with the crap O-Line and no more Lynch (which they didn’t have much last year anyway). The team is his now, and I expect him to capitalize, big time.

          • SikhHawk

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            Great analysis on Wilson.

          • Pridenpoise

            Don’t look know here comes Dale, aka Wilsons personal dick rider, he’s always ready with an excuse for Wilsons play. Stfu you stupid old man.

  • zinn21 zinn21

    I don’t think there is a more elusive QB in football. And he is seeing the field better every year he plays.

    • atyler2011

      Agree. Not saying that he will another TB or AR, but it will be an interesting comparison to see where they are at the same point of their career (i.e.. same number of games start). I’d bet he is as high, statistically, as AR and better than TB.

  • ian allen

    Maybe the better question is what he doesn’t do well/needs improvement in. Vision, decision making perhaps? If so, is that an eventual maturation process that will come naturally? I’m not a Seahawks fan but he’s a talented kid for sure.

    • Flavio Barbosa

      Consistency. Brilliant in one quarter, non factor in another.

    • monkey

      As Flavio below me said, consistency can use some work, though that’s gotten better, mostly he just needs to learn to trust his reads.
      What happened in the second half of last season when he just BLEW UP statistically, was mostly him getting the ball out more quickly. He’s always had the ability, and he’s always been able to make the reads, what he’s done in the past, is see the play to make, but not make it, out of worry that he’d throw a pick.
      He’s been a little bit too conservative when it comes to risk taking in the past.
      He needs to trust his read, and just get the ball out ala Tom Brady, who may be the best ever at that.
      Other than that, Russell Wilson has nothing separating him from the absolute best in the game.
      I honestly believe that after what he did the second half of last season, (making the quicker read and throw), he’s going to put up BY FAR his career best numbers this year.
      If I were in Vegas, I would bet pretty heavily that he’ll be the leagues MVP this year, I really believe this will be his career best year. Especially with all those terrific targets to throw to now, Lockett, Baldwin, Graham, and even a finally healthy Paul Richardson, as well as the addition through the draft of CJ Prosise, who will do some things as the third down back/2 minute drill back, that Wilson’s never had before.

      • Dale GoDawgs McLerran

        I agree with you that Wilson has been a little hesitant in the past, worrying about throwing the bad ball. I’ve got to think part of that is going against the best defense in the NFL during practice. That defensive backfield has to make Wilson a little gun shy during live games. As much as we Seahawk fans love the Legion of Boom, ET, Richard Sherman, et al make it very difficult to get a lot of rhythm going in the passing game during intra-squad practice sessions.

        But the evidence from the last half of the 2015 season is that Wilson is really blossoming as a pocket passer and set to take the stage as one of the premier QBs in the league. Not that he wasn’t incredible already with his ability to escape the rush and find an open receiver downfield. But if he can beat the defense right at the snap, he will be the equivalent of a 5-tool player in baseball. The only other 5-tool QB in the NFL is Aaron Rodgers. And Wilson beats Rodgers in what he can do with his legs. With just a 2.3 difference in career passer rating separating Wilson and Rodgers (and a 4.7 point difference between Wilson and the QB with the third best career passer rating), it is very difficult to conclude that Rodgers has been significantly better passing than Wilson. If what we saw at the end of 2015 can be built upon, then Wilson would have to be considered on par with Rodgers – and maybe better than Rodgers looking to the future.

  • Daniel

    In a pure passer sense, I agree Rus is a bit behind the leagues best, but if you put Brady or Rodgers behind that O-line, there’s no way they perform better than Rus.

  • McGeorge

    The thing I have to credit Wilson with is the ability to shine when playing behind a bad OLine. Brady is better with a few seconds, but if he’s constantly pressured he can’t do so much. Wilson routinely converts 3rd and 15 while running for his life.

    • Mat

      I disagree. I think they both do a great job behind poor lines. Difference being that Brady mitigates it by using quick decisions and quick passes, whereas Wilson can bounce around and make time out of nowhere.

      • McGeorge

        Brady does mitigate it with fast reads and releases, but Wilson makes incredible plays while scrambling, converting on 3rd and long. I don’t see Brady doing that. I think behind the Seahawk oline Brady would be less effective than Wilson.

      • Lorne Bellazer

        I went to Michigan and I disagree with you on this one.
        Brady will kill teams from the pocket but if they get after him, he will panic and make dumb throws or he will ground the ball not to be sacked.
        I trust Wilson late in games more than Brady because Wilson can make plays on his own.
        Wilson can throw the 50 yard pass or 50 yard run on any play and Brady wishes he could say the same thing.

  • James Murphy

    He’s an unbelievable player. I just gotta wonder whether his career gets shortened or he sustains a major injury with the year in and out abysmal OL. They may still be a running offense, but they don’t have Lynch as their centerpiece anymore. They gotta help Russ out at some point.

    • Dale GoDawgs McLerran

      That is a concern, for sure. There was a report this past week that his off-season training program is heavy on exercises that strengthen “helping” muscles – the muscles that provide joint stability rather than the major muscles typically associated with strength. Joint stability should help when he has to make sudden twisting moves in an attempt to avoid a free rusher or when a free rusher eventually nails him. So, his training regimen should help him avoid injury even if the Seahawks won’t put a decent OL in front of him.

      Can you imagine what kind of stats Wilson could put up with merely an average OL in protecting him? He could have some absolutely insane stats!

      • Just Me

        In the second half of last season, Seattle’s OL finally went from absolutely atrocious all the way up to below average. The result was that Wilson put up passing stats never seen before in NFL history.

    • Lorne Bellazer

      I find it interesting that folks assume Lunch was the centerpiece when he was averaging 72 yards a game, barely 1100 per season with 12 to 13 TDs while Wilson was averaging more yards per carry, 30 TDs per year and over 4000 yards of total offense.
      I don’t recall when Seattle was trailing big how Lynch was bringing them back in games. I recall Wilson’s arm, legs and his big plats being the difference.
      Did I miss something?
      Lynch never even played on a winning NFL team until Wilson became the starting QB.

  • sherifffruitfly

    Damn offensive line is gonna get the kid killed

    • Just Me

      Wilson’s a man of many talents, and one of his lesser known skills is that of avoiding injury. He’ll go for the last yard on those rare occasions when his team really needs him to do it. When it’s not critical, he’ll slide, go out of bounds, or throw it away.

  • Just Me

    I’m just happy that Wilson’s finally being seen as belonging in the elite group of QB’s: with Rodgers, Brady, and Brees. (Palmer had a better year than anyone last year, but it was just one good year.)

    I don’t care who’s the best among those 4 QB’s. I’m just incredibly grateful that Wilson’s not being compared to Cam or Rivers or Ryan or Luck or Stafford or Big Ben. These are all excellent franchise QB’s that any team would be lucky to have. But they’re simply not as elite as the top 4. And I’m glad this article recognizes that Wilson belongs up there with those who are truly the best of the best.

    • Jr W

      Ha, Cam is in any conversation Russ could be in in regards to QB talent. Thinking otherwise is just being a homer. Give me a break.

      • Wade8813

        Even if someone is wrong about Cam, that doesn’t necessarily make them a homer; it could just mean they’re wrong about Cam.

        Also, when you say talent, are you talking about potential, or what they’ve actually accomplished? Because if it’s actual accomplishments, I’d take Russ, easily. If you look at their numbers throughout their careers, Russell’s are better pretty much across the board.

        • Jr W

          I’m talking about one that came in to a team with the best young D in the league and Marshawn Lynch. If Russell would have been drafted in to the 2-14 Panthers he wouldn’t have those pretty stats. I was simply saying the two of them are absolutely in the same conversation, not bashing. Cam won an MVP and won 23 of his last 26 games, maybe just give credit where it’s due. I am not a Russ hater, I was rooting for him at NC State years before anyone in Seattle could pick him out of a lineup.

          • Wade8813

            That’s fine, and I’m not a Cam hater. But I’d still clearly take Russ over him.

            Yes, the Seahawks have an amazing defense. And that’s helped Russ win, but I’m not talking about wins. Wins are a team stat, never an individual player stat. Having a great defense doesn’t boost his completion percentage, or yards per attempt. It doesn’t reduce his Interceptions. And it sure as heck doesn’t make up for the complete garbage of an O-line he’s almost always played behind.

            Russ’ career worst completion percent is better than Cam’s career best. Russ’ career worst Int percent is tied with Cam’s 2nd best. Russ’ worst QB rating (NFL version, not ESPN version) beats Cam’s 2nd best. And he’s done that playing in a division with some of the best defenses in football, as opposed to getting to play against the Saints twice, who were one of the worst defenses in NFL history last year.

          • Jr W

            Yes Russ is more accurate and Russ also can’t hold a candle to Cam’s rushing TD #’s. TD’s equal points, completion percentage is water cooler talk. Either way my point was that Russ is not in some echelon the Cam is not, they do it in different ways but are both great. The fact that you would choose Russ over Cam is irellavent, but while we’re giving opinions I don’t think there’s GM in football that would trade the MVP for Russ straight up. We’ll see you in Seattle next year and if Russ has a better “completion percentage” ( I see how important that is to your argument) while Cam gets another W that’s fine.

          • Wade8813

            TD’s are useful to look at, but you’re drastically overrating them. Especially when you limit them to rushing TDs (unless you’re going to try to tell me that Cam is far better than Joe Montana, since Joe never had more than 3 rushing TDs in a season…?)

            There are lots of problems with just looking at TDs. They fluctuate wildly from year to year, which indicates they may not be a very good indicator of skill. Cam does have a fairly unique skill at plowing through the line to score. But that also may just mean that the coach just decided to have him do it rather than the RB.

            But even more than that, you have to consider efficiency stats. The Seahawks deliberately try to control the clock, and so they’ll take less snaps than other teams. In 2013 when we faced the Broncos in the Super Bowl, we’d played two less games worth of snaps over the course of the season than they had, which probably helped us be fresher and less injured than we otherwise would have been.

            Completion percentage isn’t that important to my argument. It’s just one of many things you might consider. Int%, TD%, Y/A, Rate, Rushing Y/A, total attempts, and other stuff too. Then you consider the QB’s receiving options, pass protection, how good the defenses were that they played against, etc.

            PS – I don’t think you have a future as a mind reader. I mean, it’s rather informative that you don’t think a single GM would trade Cam for Russ straight across, but that says more about you than the GMs.

          • Lorne Bellazer

            Newton runs for many short TD runs while Wilson averages more yards per carry every year.
            Wilson has led the NFL in yards per carry and Cam has not.
            Wilson has led the NFL in passing and Cam has not.
            Wilson has starred in Super Bowl games and Cam hasn’t even completed 45% of his passes in a Super Bowl game.
            Cam has size on Wilson but doesn’t half half the skills and leadership Wilson has.
            Wilson didn’t sit behind TEBOW for 2 years in college.
            The best thing that happened to Cam was stealing a laptop and getting kicked out of Florida because he couldn’t beat out TEBOW, who I said while in college was overrated and couldn’t throw.

          • Lorne Bellazer

            Stop that BS about coming into the league with the best young defense.
            Seattle’s defense is overrated, has been overrated since Wilson joined the NFL and has benefitted from playing many backup QBs.
            In the 20 games Seattle has lost since 2012, the defense has blown leads in 14 of those games in the 4th quarter or OT.
            In 2012, after Wilson gave the leads in Detroit, Miami and Atlanta, the defense gave the game away on the next possession. In fact, they were 34 seconds away from two road wins and a trip to the NFC title game before the defense choked.
            They also gave the lead at Chicago in 20 seconds and Wilson won that game in OT.
            In 2013, the defense gave away the games late at San Francisco and Indianapolis.
            In 2014, the defense gave away leads late against Denver (Wilson won it in OT), Dallas and Kansas City, as well as the Super Bowl game.
            In 2015-the defense blew leads against St. Louis, Carolina, Cincinnati and Arizona and would have give the Minnesota playoff game away had the kicker not missed the FG.
            So what were you saying about this great defense?

      • Lorne Bellazer

        Cam Newton is his career has INFERIOR numbers to Wilson in yards per pass, yards per carry, yards per completion, TD-INT ratio, TD passes average per year, passing rating, QBR, winning percentage, come from behind wins and NFL records.
        The same goes for Andrew Luck.
        Head to head, Wilson is 4-2 against Newton, averages 270 yards passing per game, completes 62% of his passes with 10 TDs and 5 INTs.
        In those same games, Newton is 2-4, averages 166 yards passing, has 5 TD passes with 5 INTs and 2 fumbles lost. He’s completed 52% of his passes in those same games.

  • Cam

    Yes he is. Next question.

  • SikhHawk

    TRUST ME, Russell will win 5 SB’s for SeaHawks, when his career is done, & is the next Montana who was also an underrated 3rd Rd QB playing 4 a genius coach who changed pass offense, similar to Pete C who has changed secondary pass defense.
    Brady = Starr(superstar who fell to low rounds, & missed by all);
    Rogers = Marino (no1 who fell in draft about 27 places);
    Cam = Jim Kelly; (no1 with gr8 stats but always the bridesmaid)
    Luck = Elway (who will win in later years)
    Brees = Aikman (but without the support cast Emmitt, Irving, etc)
    Peyton = Unitas
    I feel so happy that we have Russell, & I think Dale GoDawgs is spot on. Our OL was atrocious for 1st 8 games last yr, but I have very high hopes for the rookies, I think we cud finally have a line equal to our SB48 winners. Rawls cud have a 1000 yr season, PRich & TylerL & DBaldwin cud be awesome, with JimmyG adding an irresistible dimension in the PlayOffs just like the much unappreciated PHarvin did in SB48.
    Why cant we win SB51&52

    • Joe Doe

      I’m going to go ahead and not trust you, even though you asked politely. Maybe if it wasn’t all CAPS I would… no nvm, not going to trust you on the 5 SB wins prediction.

    • Kingram

      I don’t know about winning 5 SB’s my friend, but he will probably win another and is as underrated as one of my all time favorite Joe Montana

    • Lorne Bellazer

      Are you comparing Drew Brees with 428 career TD passes to Aikman who threw 165 TDs with 141 INTs in 12 years?
      Aikman had one season where he had more than 20 TD passes and his career high was 23. He completed less than 60% of his passes half of his career.
      He has just 4 seasons with more than 3000 yards passing.
      He stayed injured.
      Aikman was so overrated that his annual average was 13 TDs with 11 INTs per year.
      He was basically Brian Hoyer playing with great talent.

  • John

    Figure it would have happened l already, there’s no bigger turnstiles in pass pro than Sweezy & Britt, that was his frontside for a whole damn year, luckily ones gone, the others on his way out of the lineup. I personally like Glowinski, & believe Ifedi is gonna be a beast,4 & Odhiambo can be a starter also just needs his health. They act like the losses are a negative, I see it as addition by subtraction w/ Sweezy an awful pass pro, & Okung had 1good pro bowl year, way too inconsistent & totally unreliable for most the rest of his career.

  • Felton51

    I remember seeing him at NC State – I thought I was watching Drew Brees. He could put up Brees numbers if he had to – but with that defense, the Seahawks do not need that. It would be interesting to see if a decline in the defense allows the Hawks to let slip the Russell Wilson of war.

    • Lorne Bellazer

      I’ve watched Wilson since high school and all 4 years in college and I saw Brees all 4 years at Purdue and they had just one thing in common and that was height.
      Brees could never run like Wilson, had the mobility like Wilson, couldn’t make the plays throwing on the run like Wilson nor was as composed as Wilson.
      That’s why Wilson had a far superior college career.

  • Joe Doe

    I’ve said for the last two years that Seattle can’t maintain a championship quality team with that offensive line, even with their defense. And I was wrong both times. They let their best lineman walk away this year, forgoing paying a middle of the road LT an avg of almost $11M a year, which is hard to disagree with. This is a testament to Russell’s ability. No other quarterback would be able to survive the lack of quality in front of him.

    That being said, if this line has regressed further, as most experts suggest, can Russell still put Seattle deep into the playoffs or further? This was, is and will continue to be a great NFL storyline. I have at times imagined how much I would hate Jon Schneider if I him, even though he was the guy who drafted Russell.

  • Flavorize

    Very nice! Agreeance! 4000+yards passing…close to 30 passing TDs–400-500yds rushing…Could be top 3 or 4 QB–AND, his average draft ranking is close to the end of the 3rd round—Bargain!

    • Lorne Bellazer

      Wilson averages 605 rushing yards per season.
      Wilson averages 3494 passing yards per season.
      Wilson averages 4099 yards of total offense per season.
      Wilson averages 26.5 TD passes per season.
      Wilson averages a 26.5-8.5 TD-INT ratio per season.
      Wilson averages 8.05 yards per pass (best).
      Wilson averages 5.9 yards per carry (2nd to Michael Vick).
      Wilson averages 64.7% of his passes (8th best all time).
      Wilson averages a 101.8 passing rating (second all time).
      Wilson averages just short of 12 wins per season.
      ALL of those stats except passing yards are BETTER than Andrew Luck and Cam Newton.
      In fact, they’re better than Carson Palmer,

  • Lorne Bellazer

    Why is everyone on Aaron Rodgers’ jock?
    Check his first 4 NFL seasons out to Wilson’s first 4 and Wilson was better each year and he’s learned faster.
    2005 Rodgers was a bench warmer while Wilson was a multiple ROY winner and Pro Bowler in 2012.
    2006-Rodgers was a bench warmer while Wilson was Super Bowl winner and Pro Bowler in 2013.
    2007-Rodgers again was a bench warmer while Wilson was a Super Bowl QB in 2014. He led the NFL in yards per carry (7.2).
    2008-Rodgers became a starter in 2008 and Wilson in 2015 had just 14 less passing yards, more total yards, more rushing yards, more TD passes, a better TD-INT ratio, more yards per carry, more yards per pass, more yards per completion, a better passing rating, a better completion percentage and a better QBR than Rodgers had.
    Wilson led the NFL in passing rating (110.1).
    Also, Wilson’s 2015 season was better than Rodgers’ 2015 season in every offensive category INCLUDING QBR, passing rating, completion percentage, yards per pass, yards per completion, yards per carry, passing yards, rushing yards, total offense, TD passes and TD-INT ratio and TDs accounted for.
    But folks don’t want to accept these facts.
    Head to head, Wilson is 3-1 against Rodgers with 7 TDs and 5 INTs to Rodgers being 1-3 with 5 TDs and 4 INTs in the same games. In three of those games, Wilson threw multiple TD passes while Rodgers did it once.
    Those are the facts folks.