Ohio State vs Michigan: How Wolverines hold edge at more position groups

Big Ten analyst Josh Liskiewitz offers a position-by-position preview of where each roster stands.

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Ohio State vs Michigan: How Wolverines hold edge at more position groups


With Ohio State’s overtime victory over Wisconsin this past weekend, the path for the Buckeyes to their most-anticipated matchup with Michigan since 2006 is starting to clear. The toughest remaining game for the Buckeyes between now and Nov. 26 is likely their home game against Nebraska in three weeks, while road trips to Penn State (this weekend) and Michigan State don’t appear as formidable as they did before the season started.

Michigan has a home test against an Indiana squad that took the Wolverines to the limit last year, but like Ohio State, its toughest remaining road games (Michigan State and Iowa) appear to be large mismatches in favor of the Wolverines.

Keeping in mind that both teams obviously need to take care of business five more times before what is likely to be a matchup of two of the top three teams in the country, now is a good time to start assessing and comparing both rosters.

Who’s better, Michigan or Ohio State? Here is a position-by-position breakdown of where each roster stands, and a small preview of what we might see come the final Saturday in November:

Quarterbacks

Edge: Ohio State

J.T. Barrett’s running ability is an X factor

There’s an obvious running factor that skews this position heavily toward the Buckeyes, but in terms of passing, Michigan’s Wilton Speight and Ohio State’s J.T. Barrett aren’t far different. Speight has been consistent on shallow throws, as he has completed 76.5 percent of his throws shorter than 10 yards through the air from the line of scrimmage. While he has shown flashes of being able to work the ball on intermediate and deep balls (seven of his 11 touchdown throws have been on balls at least 10 yards through the air), his accuracy has been very inconsistent from game to game. He has completed just six of 22 deep shots (throws at least 20 yards through the air), and has not completed any of his four deep attempts outside the right numbers.

barrett-throw-vs-wisconsin

Barrett has been more successful on his deep throws, as he has completed 13 of his 32 attempts in the category. His overall QB rating is 113.2, compared to Speight’s 101.9. However, Speight has been more efficient when under pressure, as he holds an 85.5 to 71.7 edge in QB rating when threatened by the rush, and only one of Barrett’s 16 touchdown passes have come while under pressure.

Barrett’s running ability is of course one of the man catalysts of the Buckeyes’ zone-read offense, as he is averaging 5.2 yards per carry and has forced 12 missed tackles on his runs. That’s the biggest deciding factor here.

Skill positions

Edge: Michigan

Experience, Peppers give Wolverines advantage

Ohio State’s dual-threat running back Curtis Samuel is a legitimate Heisman contender, and redshirt freshman RB Mike Weber has been excellent, but Michigan’s talent level is very comparable and the Wolverines have an edge in terms of depth. Weber has forced 19 missed tackles while gaining 612 yards on 94 carries (good for an average of 6.5 per rush), ranking 13th of 25 qualifying backs in the Big Ten in terms of elusiveness. Samuel is averaging 7.3 yards per carry on the ground, and has caught all 29 catchable balls thrown his way.

Michigan boasts two backs in the top five of the Big Ten in terms of elusiveness, as Chris Evans and De’Veon Smith have forced 33 total missed tackles on 123 total touches and Ty Isaac is averaging 6.9 yards per carry over the last three games.

Outside of Samuel, Ohio State’s primary contributors in its receiving corps are WRs Dontre Wilson and Noah Brown. Wilson is averaging 14.5 yards per reception on his 16 grabs, and Brown equals him in receptions and surpasses him in touchdowns (six to four). While Brown appears to be the more dangerous of the two, five of his catches and four of his six touchdowns occurred against Oklahoma, and he has otherwise been held in relative check.

Michigan certainly holds an edge in experience, as TE Jake Butt and WRs Amara Darboh and Jehu Chesson were the top targets for the Wolverines in 2015 as well. 210 of Darboh’s 400 receiving yards have been after the catch this season, and Chesson is not far behind in terms of average per catch (Darboh holds an edge of 16.0 to 15.4). Butt is likely to be a top 50 pick in April’s draft due to his athleticism and size.

Michigan has its own wildcard on offense in S Jabrill Peppers, who runs a wildcat package on offense and showed last season the ability to catch the ball well out of the backfield. Against Rutgers he gained 74 yards on three carries and scored twice, and it’s a pretty safe assumption that he Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh has created a variety of unique plays for him on offense that we’ve yet to see at this stage. He’s been an absolute game-changer on punt returns, as he already has one score (and a second that was called back against Rutgers) and has been close to several others.

pepper-pr-vs-rutgers

Offensive line

Edge: Ohio State

Both teams have good O-lines, but Michigan dealing with injury issues

Michigan is currently second in the Big Ten in pass-blocking efficiency while Ohio State is eighth, but the loss of starting LT Grant Newsome to knee injury is a major concern. Juwann Bushell-Beatty stepped into the role once Newsome went down against the Badgers and held onto it through the Rutgers game, but should he struggle the Wolverines could opt to put Mason Cole back at left tackle (he started there in 2014 and 2015 before kicking inside to center this year) and slide Patrick Kugler in at center. Cole and RT Erik Magnuson are the two best run-blockers on the line.

C Pat Elflein started slow for the Buckeyes during the first three games but has been outstanding since, as he has made the Big Ten Team of the Week two of the last three weeks due to outstanding run-blocking and only one pressure allowed in that span. Tackles Isaiah Prince and Jamarco Jones have been solid run-blockers (up until this past weekend against Wisconsin), but each have struggled in pass pro as of late, as they’ve combined to give up 11 pressures the past two games. RG Billy Price has been the steadiest performer for the Buckeyes, as he is averaging one pressure yielded per game (no sacks and just one hit surrendered).

While the Buckeyes have yet to deal with injury issues as Michigan is currently coping with, the offensive line as a whole lacks the experience and versatility the Wolverines have.

Defensive line

Edge: Michigan

Buckeyes talented up front, but Michigan rivals Bama for best D-line in nation

The Buckeyes have come together quickly up front, and have been particularly adept at rushing the passer. DEs Tyquan Lewis, Sam Hubbard and Nick Bosa have combined for 11 sacks and 62 total pressures through six games (four sacks and 18 pressures against Wisconsin). The run defense had been solid until this past weekend, when Wisconsin used a mixture of power inside running and speed with WR end-arounds to rack up 270 yards on the ground at 6.4 yards per carry, both tactics the Wolverines also love to utilize.

But the level of dominance the Michigan defensive line has achieved to date can only be challenged by Alabama, as six players have run defense grades of at least 80.0 (by comparison, Alabama has two) and five have pass-rush grades higher than 75.0 (Alabama has six). DTs Ryan Glasgow and Maurice Hurst and DEs Chris Wormley and Taco Charlton are all likely top 100 picks (should they all choose to enter the draft this year), and last year’s No. 1 recruit DE Rashan Gary has been as good as advertised.

Linebackers

Edge: Michigan

Peppers’ hybrid role boosts Wolverines’ LB group

The mainstream opinion will be that Ohio State has the edge in this category due to the highly regarded Raekwon McMillan, but he’s had a bit of an uneven season and has been outplayed by teammate Jerome Baker, who has more solo tackles (27 to 24) and has yet to miss a tackle (McMillan has missed six). Baker has been the better of the two in coverage as well, as he has given up just five catches (on nine targets) for 24 yards and a QB rating against of just 21.3, while McMillan has a QB rating against of 111.9 (four catches yielded on seven targets, including a touchdown by Indiana).

This was without question the biggest area of concern for the Wolverines heading into the season, but both Ben Gedeon and Mike McCray have played well thus far. Gedeon’s 89.1 run defense grade is second-best in the country behind only the Ohio Bobcats’ Blair Brown, and McCray has graded well in all three phases while posting 10 pressures (three sacks) and a QB rating against of 42.1 in coverage.

As he is on offense, Peppers is the “cherry on top” of the Michigan linebacker corps. This isn’t meant to read that he is third-best of the group, as it is more commentary on the fact he has no real defined classification on the defense. While most outlets still list him at safety, he has played just 32 of his 331 defense snaps from either safety position, while 183 snaps have been from a variety of LB alignments. He has racked up 17 total defensive stops this season (seven against Colorado) and 13 total pressures.

Secondary

Edge: Michigan

CB tandem of Lewis, Stribling leads a shutdown unit

I wanted to call this category a push due to the early-season playmaking of the Buckeyes, but the struggles that several of the back seven defenders had against Wisconsin in comparison to Michigan’s complete dominance against the same team makes it unrealistic to say the two teams are on even ground at this stage.

Buckeyes safety Malik Hooker had three interceptions over the course of Weeks 1 and 2, but has given up catches five of seven times he was the primary defender each of the last two weeks and has given up a QB rating of at least 94.8 both weeks. CB Marshon Lattimore had three interceptions and five passes defended through the first five games, but gave up catches on four of six targets last week. CB Gareon Conley has been just average in run support, but has been completely dominant in coverage. On 20 targets this season he has given up just four catches for 41 yards with two interceptions and five pass breakups, including a near-interception at the end of regulation against the Badgers that forced the overtime period.

Michigan was without star CB Jourdan Lewis the first three weeks of the season, but his absence did little to aid opposing offenses. Recovered from his injury in Week 4, he has been every bit as dominant as Conley. He has given up just two receptions on 10 targets for a total of seven yards, and opposing QBs have the same rating when targeting him as they do Conley – 0.0. CB Channing Stribling is having a breakout senior season, as he has three picks and three breakups on the year while giving up just nine receptions on 27 targets. His QB rating against of 9.6 best portrays just how outstanding he has been this year, and obviously Michigan having two perimeter defenders producing at this level has made it next to impossible for teams to move the ball against the Wolverines through the air.

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Josh joined PFF as an analyst in 2015. During the season, his primary focus is college football (mainly the Big Ten). He is also heavily involved in PFF's NFL draft coverage. Prior to joining the team, he worked for six years with GM Jr. Scouting, an independent draft scouting service.

  • hybrid_2.0

    Can’t argue this, have to give the advantage to Michigan. But let’s be real-Playing in the Shoe gives OSU an X factor.

    • Davey Ineloquent

      True. It’s going to be a game for the ages, and likely a #2 vs. #3 match-up, or even a #1 vs. #2!

  • pais24

    Great writeup….should be a great game!

  • http://twitter.com/sharialawfan Steve Lawrence

    Praises be unto Allah!!!

  • Reality Check

    sounds like you went to UM – the only edge um might have is DL but that is more likely a push – overhype wolverines are in for a rude awakening come 11/26 – then after losing your senior laden team along with peppers then what?

    • John

      Actually it’s pretty easy to compare the 2 teams. They each played 3 conference games with two of them in common (Michigan also played PSU while OSU played a lesser ranked Indiana). Let’s compare the stats for their conference games.

      Mich better scoring defense 5.7 ppg compared to 13.3 ppg for OSU
      Mich better scoring offense 47 ppg compared to 42 ppg for OSU
      Mich better rushing defense 1.9 ypa compared to 3.3 ypa for OSU
      Mich better passing defense 71 ypg compared to 143 ypg for OSU
      Mich better total defense 129 ypg compared to 279 ypg for OSU –
      Mich better total defense 2.4 ypa compared to 4.28 ypa for OSU

      Mich fewer first downs allowed 22 compared to 45 for OSU

      Mich better turnover margin 1.33 compared to -.33
      Mich more interceptions 4 compared to 2

      Mich more fumbles recovered 2 compared to 1
      Mich allowed 14% of 3rd down conversions OSU allowed 34%
      Mich more long yard plays from scrimmage
      Mich allowed fewer long yard plays from scrimmage
      Mich more sacks, more TFL’s

      It’s really not very easy to find a stat that OSU leads Michigan

      • BuckiVet

        Compare offense to a great Wisconsin Defense

        • John

          Do you really think that will help your case? Michigan played that same defense with much better results.

          First downs Mich 21 Wisc 8
          First downs OSU 23 Wisc 22

          Rushing Mich 130 Wisc 71
          Rushing OSU 185 Wisc 236

          Passing Mich 219 Wisc 88
          Passing OSU 226 Wisc 214

          Total off Mich 349 Wisc 159
          Total off OSU 411 Wisc 450

          Michigan doubled the offense of Wisconsin and Wisconsin gained more yardage than OSU.

          • Anthony Schroeder

            Michigan also managed a grand total of 14 points. GG

            But I really don’t care who is better, I didn’t expect the badgers to be this decent this year, and it makes me feel really sad that a good QB would have taken us to a top 4 team.

          • John

            Michigan also left 9 points on the board because of Field goals and now we have our best kicker ready to play. Michigan dominated the game despite the close score. Wisconsin only had 159 total yards and 8 first downs.

      • Joe Carnevale

        Wins…

        • Todd42

          Oh they love to boast about those wins back in the 1800’s. Probably because they haven’t done much since.

          • nasd2000

            UM leads the all-time series 57-41-6 even with OSU’s recent success. What were you saying again?

          • Todd42

            Actually it’s 58-48-6. But OSU vacated the 2010 game, so it’s officially 58-47-6. Again most of UM’s success came long before you were born, and probably before your father was born. 20 of those UM wins came before 1930. Don’t get me wrong, they still count as victories, but my point is UM fans live in the past. Your boasting about the all time wins and losses proves my point.

      • Todd42

        That’s probably because UM has played one of the easiest schedules in the FBS. Factor that into your stats.

        • John

          Because 2 of the 3 games were against a common opponent. The 3rd team was Penn State for Michigan and it was Indiana for OSU. Obviously, PSU is a much better team than Indiana. However, if you want to compare Schedules, Sagarin has Michigan ranked as 48th SOS and Ohio State below them at 50th.

          You can also look at all the non common opponents using the Massey Composite Rankings which finds the average from 103 different rankings systems.

          Ohio States opponents
          55 Tulsa
          17 Oklahoma
          114 Bowling Green
          53 Indiana
          Average 59.75

          Michigan opponents

          106 Hawaii
          68 UCF
          19 Colorado
          35 Penn State
          Average 57

          So even with these rankings, Michigan’s SOS is not easier than OSU’s. It doesn’t matter if you compare just the two common opponents, all conference opponents to date or all games played, Michigans stats are far superior.

          • Todd42

            And I can find stats like from Phil Steele that say UM’s SOS is 78th, and OSU’s is 12th. If you really think that UM’s schedule has been harder than OSU’s you need to take off the maize colored glasses, because it isn’t even close.

            Also if you think PSU is a much better team than Indiana, you apparently don’t watch much college football.

          • ohiowild

            OSU was a 28 pt favorite vs Indiana and is a 19 point favorite vs PSU… vegas is soo stoopid

          • Todd42

            What do you think the spread would be if the game was at OSU? Probably around 24-27 points. No Vegas isn’t stupid. Hence my comment if you think PSU is a “much better” team than Indiana, you don’t watch much football.

          • John

            are those his preseason stats? Oklahoma is not as good as expected and Colorado is much better than expected. The SOS between the two teams is extremely close and if Steele has it at 78th and 12th then you would be foolish to pay for his site.

          • Matt Condon

            john where do you get your stats? ohio state is #5 in the nation with 11 INTs Michigan is tied at #46 with 6 INTs. Ohio state is also beating Michigan in Total offense 3099 yds vs 2820 for Mich. OSU is #14 in the country in Offenseive Passing Effeciency vs Michigan at #37 and my favorite stat which is a game changer and flips the filed OSU is #2 in the nation in Net Punting yards Michigan is #82..we average more then 10 yards per punt !!!

          • John

            My stats come from the NCAA, football outsiders and others.

            There’s no doubt that you have a great punting team, but it’s also a misleading stat. Michigan and Ohio State are playing two different types of games. OSU’s belief seems to be go down and score. Michigan is playing field position which will lead to scoring.

            I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seem Michigan on the opponents side of the 50 punting on 4th and short. No matter how much I yell at the TV, Harbaugh always does that. He’s playing field position and it usually ends up working for them.

            If you’re punting from the opponents 40 then your punt yardage will be significantly reduced. When’s the last time you’ve seen Urban punting from the opponents side of the field. If it’s 4th and 5, he’d probably go for it. I admit, it’s more fun to watch but it doesn’t always work out.

            Michigan is

            #1 in starting field position

            #13 in opponents starting position

            #1 in Net field position

            Ohio State is

            #10 in starting field position

            #18 in opponents starting position

            #9 in Net field position

            Michigan is #1 in Special Teams
            Ohio State is #24 in Special Teams

          • Jeff Hickey

            Wait, but you just used logic for your support. That doesn’t fit the narrative.

      • chris

        Buddy besides Wisconsin who have you played in the Power 5?

        • chris

          Thats worth a damn and NO not Rutgers!!!

      • Rob Stanley

        All from the comfort of TTUN’s home field……. Pretty easy schedule for them overall and any tough game is at home. There is only one real game on the schedule and it is in Cbus.

    • busch

      Guess the first set of playoff ranking computer algorithms also went to UM?

  • GR Wolverine

    Where is the special teams analysis???
    Peppers is a dangerous returner but field goal kicking is a huge liability for my Wolverines.

  • Ryan Lentz

    Id push skill players or even give OSU a slight advantage….Peppers is great and all, but vs Wisconsin he had 0 yards of offense …fwiw I think of all players Samuel is the most dangerous with the ball in his hands. OSU has the edge in the kicking game and I would also give them the nod as far as coaches go….I am biased as a OSU fan of course, just not sure I buy that UM is better everywhere besides QB and OL…guess we’ll see in Columbus…

    • Rich French

      By the looks of last night, Maybe Michigan is better at the OL and QB position also.
      Every game is different, players have a range of performance, there can be an environment impact.
      I remember in the 90’s OSU would have seemly the better team and lose to UM every time. It will be a good game, Michigan playing for the playoff and OSU trying to get an at large FBS bowl game.

      • Ryan Lentz

        A one loss Big Ten champ will make the playoffs. Wether its UM or OSU

      • busch

        This seems pretty accurate 2 weeks later…

  • chris

    OMG Im so tired of this!!! How can this Michigan team have this many more advantages lol this is so unreal. Its just crazy how TTUN fans and obviously this person writing the article is a homer. How can Peppers be as good as advertised. What defense has this team played so far? The Buckeyes have many players up to Peppers level of play this shit just kills me.

    • Rich French

      How did it go in Happy Valley against a team michigan beat 49-10?
      Oh, I know…night game, on the road. That has to be worth 40 points, right?

  • Marc

    lets be honest.

    -TTUN playing Wisconsin up in Ann Arbor was a huge advantage for the wolverines.

    -Ohio State Played Wisconsin (after the badgers had 2 weeks to prepare) AND at Camp Randall at night! (Definitely a very very live and dangerous place for any team on the road) ………..Ask Harbaugh about that one (lmfao)

    -Whoever thinks TTUN is better based on that game obviously knows nothing about college football
    – The Rutgers game. You think Urban and crew were pushing the gas on a former buckeye staff member and a personal friend of Urban Meyer…get out of here. lol
    -As someone mentioned, TTUN may have a stronger D-Line….but thats really about it.

    Right now, id call the matchup pretty even. BUT, come TTUN vs Ohio State, I will tell you right now it wont be a very entertaining game to watch: here is why

    TTUN has peaked, the degree they are playing right now, thats it. Possibly some QB growth in his deep ball game, but thats really about it

    Ohio State has alot of time left to develop on both sides of the ball.

    These are the only legitimate concerns:

    Defensively- The secondary tighten up on receivers (which they will with more reps before the TTUN game)

    Offensively – Wide receivers learn to explode on the correct routes (which they will with more reps before the TTUN game) as well as a little more push from the O-Line for QB protection.

    I can promise you that the game wont be as good as people intend. These young men at The Ohio State just need a few more games to develop and work on the minor issues they have on both sides of the ball. If they correct these small issues, honestly, i dont even think TTUN’s coaching staff will have an answer when OSU has a two touchdown lead after the 3rd quarter.

    If the above issues are worked on …ill take OSU: 31-14
    If they were to play right now….it would be a toss up who would win in a last minute field goal.

    • John

      Actually, Urban was pushing on the gas much harder than Michigan. If you
      want to run up the score then you pass to preserve more of the clock.

      Michigan threw 16 passes compared to 36 by OSU and Michigan only had 72 plays compared to 89 for OSU.

      Speight was pulled after the first half and Michigan threw 10 of their passes in the first qtr and none in the 4th. Barrett threw 29 passes before he was
      pulled on the last drive of the 3rd qtr. Who’s running up the score?

      The wide scoring margin was because of Michigan’s field position. With a
      defense that held Rutgers to 0-17 on third down conversions and no 1st downs until the middle of the 4th, Michigan was constantly working with a short field. In fact, Michigan gained 69 fewer yards than OSU despite scoring 20 more points.

      The only way Michigan/Rutgers would have been closer is if the defensive
      players were told not to make all their tackles or if the secondary gives a few
      yards of free space between the receivers. That won’t happen.

      Michigan peaked? Really?

    • busch

      Welp.. guess your predictions were pretty weak, huh? Losing to an unranked team and almost losing to NW? If you still think it’ll be 31-14 OSU, I think you’re letting your heart pick and not your brain.

      • Marc

        So, I cant be the only one who knew 2 facts:

        1. On the road TTUN has shown to be trash offensively (beating Rutgers really doesn’t count for much)..matter of fact, how many home games did they have? how many of their opponents did they play off of a back to back bye week in their house during prestigious night games?…don’t worry, ill wait

        2. Jabrill Peppers only real accomplishment is being able to play multiple positions…in which he is extremely average in talent and skill wise at all of those positions, hell he is better at offense than he is at defense..smh. I believe he was held to 11 yards total vs a …DECENTLY coached Iowa defense. You really think he can wildcat vs a buckeye defense, in the shoe?.

        (offensively, way overrated) just be prepared to see a not so pleasant scoreboard man

        • busch

          I must have missed the part in your post that mentioned how Ohio State
          has almost no chance to win the Big Ten, but the Wolverines are in complete control of their destiny.

          You talk about Rutgers when we whomped them… not sure what the point is, there. Should I bring up how Michigan beat Wisconsin easier than you did, EVEN with a terrible kicking game at the time?

          How about how Michigan’s one loss was by 1 point and OSU’s wasn’t?

          We’ll see what happens in The Game. I’m looking forward to a win, but am sure it will be a great game, regardless.

          Also, I understand if you’re letting your fan-boyism get in the way, but to call Peppers average in talent and skill just makes you look stupid.

          • Marc

            I assume you also missed the part how good our loss was..Off of a Wisconsin bye week, in their home..followed by a penn state game, in their home off of their bye week. Regardless, you are right, Michigan does control their own Destiny. BUT, it wont be a surprise when Ohio State beat TTUN and goes to the CFP….we all know Penn State can’t handle Clemson, or Alabama. As im sure the committee does also. You cant play pro style football vs Alabama. They pick it apart. The only two teams that legitimately have a shot of beating them is Clemson, and Ohio State. That is a fact, not by my opinion, but as relative college football fact

            But like you, We will just has to see how it pans out. Also, Im extremely proud of the B1G for playing hard football. We definitely own the skill lever of all off power 5’s this season.

          • busch

            If you seriously think that Clemson and Ohio State have a chance against Alabama, but Michigan doesn’t, you’re crazy.

            Personally, I think Michigan and Ohio State have the best chances.. but I like Michigan for it more than Ohio State. Both teams are great, but you need to start respecting Michigan or it could hurt you even more in a couple weeks…

            And please, don’t try and make excuses for the loss. It wasn’t good, by any means, unless you count the same reason i consider Michigan’s loss a good thing: it lights a fire under both teams and brings them back to Earth.

          • Marc

            I respect TTUN’s defense. Honestly, that is about it. and the O-Line is pretty good to. The reason why Michigan isnt really a good match-up for Alabama is because they play a Pro style offense, and the Tide’s Defense has been pounding Pro style offenses. I respect your insight, but by both: statistics, and the eye test, your opinion isn’t very realistic.

            also, in regards to the losses….I don’t see the Hawkeyes anywhere on the AP25….where as Penn State sits at #9…again, be realistic man. Its ok to be a fan, but I feel like your head is still in the clouds with the Wolverines…even after a loss.

            It also urks me that they sit and brag/talk about hurting other QB’s. Where is the respect of football in that program? Its disgusting.

          • busch

            Well, that 78-0 Rutgers game might not mean anything to you, but they have a top notch offense. They had a couple iffy games, but they are still great.

            I think you have your head in the clouds, honestly. I have a feeling I’ll be coming back here after we win and you’ll have nothing to say, lol.

            My opinions are very realistic.. we have trounced some teams this year. You guys have, too, but I’m not sitting here telling you that Ohio State’s offense is bad.. BECAUSE I’M THE REALISTIC ONE. Both teams are talented, both offensively and defensively.

            Pull your head out of your butt, man. I know you’re an OSU fan, but that’s no reason to act dumb.

            To put it another way: the way you’re acting, if we win The Game, I get to come back here and make you look like a fool… while all you can do is come back and say, “Yeah, you did say they were both good teams.”

          • Marc

            …….^ this response. ..you literally responded to none of my points. Calm down, and take it easy guy. I have nothing more to say.

          • busch

            LMAO. Please.. you had nothing to say for 2-3 weeks until you got lucky and we lost a 1 point game.

            You’re nothing but a troll.

            Two weeks ago everyone could see UM was better. They most likely still are and will probably win the Big Ten.

            At least they are in the position to do so, unlike your team.

            See you on here after The Game. :)

          • Marc

            You still have not addressed any of my points.

            I must be old or something, but what in the hell is a troll?

            …Anyways

            To counter your message: Got lucky, how? because our offensive coaches decided to open the play book and left our offense confusing opponents reads? come on man, being pissy isn’t going to validate your opinions.

            We’ll just see how O’Korn plays versus a top 5 Defense..
            ^^Think about that for a second.

          • busch

            I thought you had nothing more to say?

            Exactly.

            I didn’t respond to you “points” because they are asinine. UM doesn’t have a good or respectable offense? You sound ridiculous.

            I don’t waste my time on ridiculous people.

          • busch

            Also, WE BEAT THE TEAM THAT BEAT YOU 49-10.

            How about you comment on that, LMFAO. Does that mean nothing to you?? Honestly?

            The takeaway would be that teams have good weeks and bad weeks… and right now, if both teams have a good week, like this article says, we look to be the better team. Now, with the home field advantage, it will be a good game. But if EITHER team has an off week in any way, the other team will take the game.

          • busch

            So.. how you feeling after today’s performance? Almost losing to MSU… ouch. Better bring a better offense than that next week if you hope to have any chance of winning.

            Shame that close game might even cost OSU a trip to the playoffs even if they do win… wait, that’s not a shame at all! lol

  • River Phlegethon

    The butthurt is strong in these ohio fans.

  • Stephen Chang

    So far so good for Michigan because their defense has not only just beat up very bad teams, but also beat a good Colorado team and a solid Wisconsin team. Those two teams are not “cupcakes”, they tested Michigan on both sides of the ball and Michigan passed. The only real concern that I have for Michigan is their kicking game. Offense has been steady as well, will be tested, but I am confident that Harbaugh will have Speights ready for the OSU game. Michigan’s gameplan on defense will be simple, contain Barrett and force him to be just a passer. Wisconsin went after Barrett and wanted to sack him, but it open running lanes for Barrett. People think that Michigan won’t have a chance of winning against OSU, but never ever underestimate Harbaugh because he knows that the media is hyping OSU as the “unbeatable” team and he will motivate his team to play well in the Shoe.