Chargers: 2013 weakness turns into strength

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Chargers: 2013 weakness turns into strength


PFF-headlinesLast year, The San Diego Chargers were among the worst teams in the league in pass coverage with -47.6 overall grade; 3rd worst in the NFL. Their highest ranked cornerback last year (Johnny Patrick) was listed as the 95th best in the league.

All that has changed in just a year for The Chargers who now have the 4th highest pass coverage grade in the NFL. A big reason for the turn around is offseason free agent pick-up Brandon Flowers; who as of now sits comfortably as our top ranked cornerback (+10.1). Flowers looks to be one of the major free agent bargains this year.

Another reason for quick turn around is rookie CB Jason Verrett, who came out of the gates on fire with +3.5 game against The Cardinals Week 1. Unfortunately, Verrett has been slowed down by a hamstring injury the last two weeks; however he looks to make his return this week against The Jets.

Also in the defensive backfield is All-Pro safety Eric Weddle, who is doing what he does every year ranking in the top 6 for safeties and second year player Jahleel Addae who made his first start last week (+1.1).

The impressive turn around for The Chargers is a huge reason as to why they are 3-1 and look to be one of the better teams in the NFL this year.

  • [email protected]

    So, what about the article about how much the Chargers would miss Danny Woodhead and he was the 7th best RB in the NFL? Not so much.

    • Come again?

      What exactly is your point? They lost a good player. Just because they were lucky enough to find another player who could step up in one game (against the woeful Jets) doesn’t mean they won’t miss the good player. In football (in any sport, really) it helps to have as many good players as possible. That’s a pretty basic concept.

      • [email protected]

        My point was that there are 50 running backs in the NFL who are as good or better than Danny Woodhead. Every back who has replaced him has been better.

        • John Boner (R)

          Scott seems angry still that the bolts beat the sea hags

          • [email protected]

            I know Danny Woodhead is Rudy, but Rudy wasn’t a great football player either.

          • 5

            Beat it and go comment on your own page, you sound like an idiot bandwagoner.

          • [email protected]

            You seem angry that Drew Brees went to New Orleans and is a much better QB than Rivers.

          • cam

            The last year and 1/2 would disagree with you. Rivers has put up better stats across the board than Brees.

          • [email protected]

            Stats are important?

          • Chris

            **Troll identified**

            Both Brees and Rivers are better than your game manager, Russell Wilson.

            **Troll Eliminated**

          • [email protected]

            You sure about that? Did you see Russell Wilson on Monday Night Football? Oh wait, i forgot that you hate athleticism only slow, old, or white guys can make ‘skillful’ plays.

          • 5

            Yes we saw he sucks bad and still runs for his life because he doesn’t know how to throw the ball. Your team blows and fought toothe and nail against the Redskins lol
            On the other hand Chargers continue to impress playing well on defense, offense and special teams while 70% of its roster were hurt, injured or on IR. matter of fact you can watch the replay and look at Troutman limping on and off the field after pass protecting for Rivers, Keenan Allen limping around after re-aggravating his groin injury from week 2 and Freeney limping hobbling after 3rd down plays.. same Freeney who destroyed Wilson.
            Your not worthy to be mentioned next to the Chargers in any power rankings..
            Props to Marshawn Lynch, he would fit in as a Charger nicely

          • [email protected]

            Had a 2 score+ lead most of the game = fighting tooth and nail? We have a great defense and a clutch QB, the game was never in doubt. I dont think it will happen, but if you guys make it to the Superbowl it will be more fun beating you up now.

            We had injuries too, Zach Miller was scratched. Kam Chancellor has bone spurs in his foot, i didnt see the all-22 but he was there when every big play happened. I think he needs surgery. Okung and Unger are banged up again.

          • 5

            Thanks for acknowledging we’re the better overall team and Wilson is all you got tonight by not stating that your special teams or defense did just as well as ours have been for the past couple of weeks, we both know your defense have been doing rather poor even before our match up, PFF listed some raw data on your defense and your legion of boom accounted for most of the miss tackles in your outing against the Packers with 12 lol, you dont need to admit were the better team, we both know the Chargers are, the more you see our games the more evidence its thrown at you that we would beat you 118 degrees or not.
            Rivers is better than Wilson so no need to brag about QBs to us as if that what sets you apart from our team. LOL

          • [email protected]

            There you go with your silly stats again. Lacy was completely nullified and we sent him out of the game with a concussion.

          • Chris

            LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL this is too easy.

          • Dohkay

            Scott, just an FYI but did you know Nick Foles and Eli Manning combined for 650 yards and 8 TDs in the two previous weeks against Washington? Don’t get too excited with RW’s performance. It was great but remember that defense is very, very bad.

          • Chris

            Don’t try and bring logic into this.

          • loosenut

            You mean when he over looked the open receiver for a TD so he could run for 16 yards? Yup saw it.

          • John Boner (R)

            Last I checked Rivers has the highest completion % and QB rating in the entire NFL. Dont be mad because he laid to waste the silly legion of gloom

        • Chris

          LOL what the hell is going on here. Woodhead is not and never was intended to be a “feature back”. That’s why they have Ryan Mathews. And he isn’t a poor man’s fullback, he’s a poor man’s Darren Sproles. He takes a few carries a game, and does some good work on checkdowns as a safety net.

          And he has been very effective in that role. But I guess we should all jump on the Brandon Oliver train because he had one good game in a blowout.

          • Patrick

            LOL a poor man’s fullback? He led all RBs in receptions last year. Go talk nonsense somewhere else.

          • [email protected]

            Anybody can catch checkdowns, especially if you’re not a very good player. If you’re too good they wont leave you open.

          • Chris

            Sproles would love to debate this with you.

            Knowing where to sit down, always on the same page with your QB, the chemistry, is huge for a checkdown receiver. I likely would attribute Brees’ slow start to the fact that he lost Sproles.

            Woodhead was the 7th best RB because he was the 2nd best receiver. His running is unimpressive, but that isn’t why he makes the roster. We’ve seen one game from Oliver in a blowout where he ran much better than Woodhead every did. He also added 68 yards with 4 catches but 50 of that came on one ball, meaning he caught the other 3 for just 18.

            Woodhead averaged 5 catches for about 40 yards all 17 games last season. If Oliver can match this production the rest of the year than sure we can forget about Woodhead. But I’m not putting that much stock into one blowout.

            tl;dr Oliver is a better runner but over the remainder of the season I’d bet on the Chargers missing Woodhead’s pass catching ability.

            I also agree with the original response – I don’t see what any of this has to do with the Chargers’ secondary.

          • [email protected]

            If you can’t run the ball you aren’t a great running back. Running is important. How are you going to have a balanced offense if your running back can’t run? Throwing 60 times a game is not a recipe for winning.

          • loosenut

            Again, making things up. Woodhead is a much better runner between the tackles than Sproles. Of course overall Sproles is a better player…everyone knows that. Woodhead is not an every down back, and the Chargers do not use him as an every down back. Just dumb comments.

          • [email protected]

            Woodhead is great between the tackles if you need 2 yards. If you ever want to gain more than 2 yards, terrible.

          • bigbruther

            omg you know nothing

          • [email protected]

            Well you see, running backs are supposed to RUN. Not CATCH. He’s not a good runner. Thats his primary job.

          • Chris

            Is Sproles not a RB? He catches more than he runs? Is he an H-Back too? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

          • loosenut

            He’s not a good runner? 4.5 YPC since entering the NFL. You are wrong and just make crap up to be a hater. Woodhead is a very good runner between the tackles, a great receiver, a superb blocking back and a clutch player. He is the perfect back to pair with Mathews.

          • [email protected]

            I’m saying he’s nowhere near the 7th best RB in the NFL. He’s not a bad player but the Chargers will be better off without him because they weren’t using him the right way.

          • [email protected]

            I honestly don’t understand why you bother hanging around a place like PFF when you clearly have no idea how it works or how you manged to get here and learn so little about football.

            Give it up already. You’re wrong. Sit there in your wrongness and be wrong.

          • [email protected]

            You mean the same site that ranked Demaryius Thomas the 22nd best receiver THIS WEEK? That site? I am not here to learn i am here to teach.

          • Chris

            You just called Woodhead a FB, please don’t try to teach us any more. Please.

          • [email protected]

            Well he’s not a running back, since he can’t run very well.

          • Chris

            He ran at a 4.0 last year, only 0.2 behind Lynch. Is Lynch a FB?

          • [email protected]

            There you go with your silly statistics again, lets get our d20’s and protractors and find out who the good football players are!

          • Chris

            I don’t see how a d20 has anything to do with what I just said.

            You said Woodhead doesn’t run the ball well, therefore he isn’t a “running back”.

            Yet his YPC is only 0.2 behind Lynch. There were plenty of RBs with lesser YPCs than Woodhead. And plenty of big names that were only a few ticks higher.

            But I guess that’s just silly statistics.

          • [email protected]

            Yes it is a silly statistic. Runner A runs once for 81 yards and then 19 times for 1 yard. Runner B runs 20 times for 5 yards every time. They have the same average but one is MUCH better.

            One of the (many) problems with statistics is that you are trying to reduce the complexity of the situation beyond its lowest possible point.

          • Chris

            Which one is better? And which one is Woodhead in this scenario?

          • [email protected]

            Player A is Chris Johnson. Player B is Marshawn Lynch. They run for the same YPC but Lynch is way better. Danny Woodhead isn’t a feature back so it doesnt matter.

            Am i wrong? Do you see the flaw in your simple statistics to solve very complex problems?

          • Chris

            LOLOLOLOLOLOL yes I managed to crack that code. Thanks for breaking it down for me.

            I know how averages work and I know how modes work. I never once said that all YPCs are equal, or that Chris Johnson is a good RB (he’s not). You just invented a fake argument and then tore it down and think you proved something (straw man fallacy).

            You make the argument that because a player like Johnson can bust off a few big plays every now and then while Lynch is consistent yet they have the same average, ergo YPC is flawed.

            Except Woodhead does not bust off big runs like that. I would contend that his 4.0 YPC is every bit as consistent as Lynch’s 4.2.

            To call Woodhead a bad runner based off a consistent 4.0 YPC while a player like Lynch is only 0.2 better, while he also led all backs in catches, is inane.

          • [email protected]

            YPC is irrelevant. That was my point and its clearly not at all a straw man as you used it again.

          • Chris

            The straw man was that I never claimed YPC wasn’t flawed. YPC cannot be used to compare all backs in one vast sweep, for exactly the situation you described with Chris Johnson. But Woodhead isn’t one of those backs. He isn’t a dynamic big play guy, so again I’d contend his 4.0 is a pretty accurate measure.

            He didn’t boost his 4.0 (average) YPC with long gains. He led all back in catches. He never run blocked (4% of his snaps), which is the primary function of a FB.

            He is a 3rd down back who gets used on passing downs, just like all the other non-primary workhorse backs around the league. He just so happens to be one of the best pass catching 3rd down backs. And to come full circle, San Diego will miss this production on 3rd downs sooner or later – the fact that Oliver ran well in one blowout does not mean he will suddenly morph into the league’s best pass catcher overnight.

          • [email protected]

            Catching the most passes does not mean that you are the best receiver. It means that your team threw you the ball a lot.

          • Chris

            Would they keep throwing to him if he wasn’t a good option?

            Stop beating around the bush. My original argument was that no, Woodhead is not a spectacular runner and they won’t miss that. But that’s not why he’s on the roster. He is a great 3rd down pass catching back and he led all backs in receptions.

            Oliver running well in one blowout is not going to make up for Woodhead’s ability to catch passes on 3rd down next week.

          • [email protected]

            My original argument was that Woodhead was being misused. That him being injured was a lucky accident for San Diego. I’m saying he is the American Battleships at Pearl Harbor. Its lucky for us that they were sunk, because it forced us into a smarter strategy that we might not have been smart enough to go with otherwise.

          • Chris

            And I disagree. Backs who can run well are a dime a dozen these days. It’s the reason teams use so many instead of one feature back. But there aren’t as many backs who can contribute on 3rd down and lead the league in catches. Woodhead has a unique skillset and it’s the reason he makes the roster even though he doesn’t run the ball the greatest.

            I’ll say it again, Oliver will likely be a better runner. So would several other guys. But none of them will likely provide the pass catching role that Woodhead filled so well. They didn’t need it in the blowout against the Jets, but they will in the future.

          • [email protected]

            You have me there. There is only one back per year who can lead the league in catches.

          • [email protected]

            If he was a better athlete teams wouldn’t allow him to be wide open so often for short passes.

          • [email protected]

            Mean vs average is just one way that YPC is flawed. You are reducing a complex situation into a number. The two players are used very differently. You are not running Danny Woodhead into a run heavy front on first and 10.

          • DrAWNiloc

            “…every team has 2-3 guys way better than him.”

            That reminds me of the American critic who said of William Shakespeare: “I doubt we have six of his ilk in all of Boston.”

          • [email protected]

            He was right. There isn’t a single play of his that is remotely interesting.

    • Dohkay

      Look, Scott! Another post where everyone disagrees with you! Of course that just means you’re right, am I right???

      By the way, my Lions could use a worthless kicker who gets too much credit. Want to ship us Hauschka?

      • [email protected]

        Exactly. You can follow the herd or think for yourself.

        • Just a thought

          Funny thing about that analogy: if you are a herd animal your survival is based on learning from those around you who actually know what the hell they are doing. The strays who “think for themselves” are the ones that get picked off and eaten by lions.

          • [email protected]

            Wow you got me, i never expected you to defend herd mentality as a good thing. It hasn’t worked so well for humans. There are two major political systems that believed that the whole was more important than the individuals. It was the Communists and the Nazi’s.

      • [email protected]

        Sure, send us Tate back.

        • Dohkay

          You mean one of those overrated WRs that can’t get open and help Wilson out in the passing game? Why would you want him?

          • [email protected]

            Who cares if he gets open? You can throw him short passes and bubble screens all day. He’s impossible to tackle. Ive always said so.

          • Dohkay

            Sarcasm. I love Golden. He is exactly what the Lions needed.

          • [email protected]

            I know, i’m bummed i made a highlight reel of all of Golden’s catches in 2012 and 2013. Went down with my youtube account. It was amazing to watch.

  • beast

    would love BO to continue with his performance and I would love to see Woodhead and him next year making all kinds of defenders miss, like chasing two mice on the field.