2014 Depth Chart: Miami Dolphins

A look at the depth and quality of each position on the roster for the 2014 Miami Dolphins.

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2014 Depth Chart: Miami Dolphins


2014 depth update MIA

[Chart last updated: 6/30/14… See update notes from 6/30/14]

Notes

•  Quarterback Ryan Tannehill appears to be becoming a polarizing figure in Miami, with some questioning if he has what it takes to become a top quarterback in the league. We’re not quite ready to have him in the High Quality bracket, but there’s no denying that he’s been a good player in his first two seasons. A +27.7 grade between 2012 and 2013, and showing improvement from Year 1 to 2, he should still give Dolphins fans hope that they can unseat the New England Patriots atop the AFC East yet.

•  A year ago Cameron Wake would have been firmly in the Elite bracket but, as good a season as it still was, his 2013 season wasn’t quite up to that standard. He finished the year with a +27.7 pass rushing grade, but +17.2 of that came in just four games. He’s 32 now so we may be starting to see a decline, yet he still remains a very good player on the Miami defensive line.

•  Though his first season in Miami was definitely a disappointment, Mike Wallace is still firmly in the Good Starter category. Does he do everything well? No, but he does have the ability to be one of the top deep threats in the league when he’s at his best, giving the Dolphins a field-stretcher in a talented offense.

 

Roster Battles

1.  Wide Receiver

While Wallace and Brian Hartline figure to be the top two wide receivers in Miami once again in 2014, the battle really heats up further down the depth chart. Both Brandon Gibson and Rishard Matthews flashed talent on limited work in 2013, while the team added veteran Damian Williams and rookies Jarvis Landry and Matt Hazel in the offseason. Depending on how the rookies perform, this unit has the potential to be very deep for the Dolphins.

2.  Backup Running Back

Knowshon Moreno arrives in Miami as the top running back on the depth chart, with the two players who split time last year in Daniel Thomas and Lamar Miller now fighting it out for snaps behind him in 2014. Miller edged Thomas in carries in 2013, but failed to live up to the hype that had seemingly built for him heading into the season. Thomas, on the other hand, graded positively but didn’t generate much excitement. It’s not a terrible situation for the Dolphins to be in but at least one of the two will likely see their role greatly diminished in 2014.

3.  Defensive End

After being selected with the third overall selection in last year’s draft, much was expected of pass rusher Dion Jordan. He wasn’t the electric player that some seemed to expect him to be out of the gates though, and spent the year as a sub package player, playing just 339 snaps. There were rumors that the Dolphins were looking to offload him after just one season but, with nothing ever coming of that, he now gets a second opportunity to unseat Olivier Vernon as the starter opposite Wake. Vernon played 929 snaps in 2013, but his 11 sack season didn’t grade as well as the numbers would suggest, so there’s definitely scope for Jordan to jump ahead of him on the depth chart.

 

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  • Jordan MacGeever

    woah wait there how come Grimes and Wake neither are elite? worse players have been graded as elite so far…

    • Chris

      They explained Wake’s grade. He picked up over half his grade in 4 games, and was less productive in the other games.

      Also, this isn’t a grade based on past production, it’s based on future production. He’s 32 and likely won’t be ‘elite’ going forward much longer if at all.

      Grimes is a little more confusing. He was also near the top of his position last year, but he’s also getting older (31 by seasons start). He was pretty consistently good last year though. I’d say he deserves an Elite grade.

      • Kyle

        One season, does not, an elite player, make, nor should it ever.

        • Chris

          I hope you’re not talking about Grimes, ranked 9th in coverage in 2010, 3rd in 2011, and 3rd again last year after missing all of 2012 with an injury.

          • Kyle

            I’m indeed talking about Grimes, who I actually wrote on my blog as being the second best cornerback in the league this past season. The standards for elite are so absurdly low and subjective, I don’t like using the term for anyone, off of one season or multiple. That said, I think he just needs one more year in the top 5 to be on that level, indisputably.

          • Jordan MacGeever

            hahaha so 3 times in the top 10 is not worthy of being elite? obvious you don’t understand football

          • Kyle

            Nope, never watched it a day in my life, haven’t even seen a pigskin.

            Explain to me elite, I’m interested to hear it. Elite is a sham, it’s also going to be the basis of my next article. Your definition of elite is most likely different than mine, if I was to ever use the term, so us disagreeing on the criteria would not, as you so eloquently put it, mean that “I don’t understand football”.

            Grimes has played well, even great, in three of his seven NFL seasons. He was unfortunate enough to miss a season, and his first three seasons were, at best, unimpressive. As I said, it is my opinion that he was second to only Richard Sherman last season, but that doesn’t automatically mean he deserves the so-called elite moniker. It means he has had two great season, which were separated by a season he was unable to participate it, and has had a season worthy of a top 10 ranking on this particularly website. What you seem to be missing on, however, is that even the people who run this site, and create those rankings, will state that their rankings are not, in fact, the end all be all of football rankings and grades, even though I believe they do the best job on the internet, or television. Grimes being in the top 5 again in the coming season, and those seasons thereafter, will give him the credentials needed to gain “elite” status. Ignoring the number of players who have been crowned as elite based on one or two seasons, and then gone on to be nothing the rest of their careers, is irresponsible and unfair to those that are given the status. Elite, if it is accepted as an adequate description of talent and ability, shouldn’t be thrown around just for the sake of making a player you enjoy look better than another, it depends on continuity, consistency, and then mind-blowing numbers. If Namdi Asomougha comes back from the land of football dead, records 15 interceptions, and is graded as the best corner for one year, does that automatically make him elite? No, because it’s one season, and the number of years in between his best seasons and that season would be far too much to adequately hand him the title. It is downright ignorant to tell someone that their criteria for giving a player a distinction such as “elite” is proof that they don’t understand football. Maybe you just don’t understand the concept of consistency.

            So no. 3 times in the top 10 is not worthy of being elite.

          • Jordan MacGeever

            well put it this way Grimes has played like an elite CB for 2 of the last 3 years

          • Kyle

            Sure and that is your prerogative to believe it. I disagree for a myriad of reasons.

          • Chris

            Thanks for the novel, including the longest paragraph in recorded history.

            Sure he’s only been “great” for 3 of his 7 seasons. 1 of those he missed entirely due to injury, and can hardly be held against him. That leaves 3 of 6. And he has improved, from an in drafted player who hardly played early in his career, to putting up 3 top 10 in his last 3 full seasons Including 2 top 5s in his last 2 full seasons.

            That is called improving and that level of sustained production is considered elite. Your flawed definition means that players who aren’t high draft picks and given a starting role immediately can rarely ever become elite. Because it takes 4+ years of sustained elite production to be considered elite, and anyone who had to spend 2-3 years earning a shot is going to be 30+ by then and on the downside of their career.

            This goes without even mentioning, your standard of the top CB Richard Sherman plays among the best secondary in the league so how good is he actually on his own? He doesn’t mark up #1s he plays deep cover 3. How do you know he isn’t a really good system player?

            Grimes matches up #1s, he’s succeeded in two schemes, and he’s ranked top 3 his last 3 years. Give him his credit when it’s due.

          • Kyle

            Y’all remind me of my fellow Bengal fans when I say that Vontaze Burfict isn’t the best linebacker in the NFL and A.J. Green isn’t an elite wide receiver.

            I don’t have a consideration for elite because I don’t use the term. I have never once described a player as elite, and I don’t really plan to do so. I don’t subscribe to the term, so any ideas you may have regarding my idea of elite, are nil.

            Richard Sherman is the best corner back in the NFL. At this moment in time there is nobody better at man coverage, or zone coverage. He reads routes and offenses better than the vast majority, if not all, of the corners in the NFL, and he plays with an unmatched physicality. Sherman’s destruction of Anquan Boldin in the first game against San Francisco last season was astounding. He is also the largest reason why he plays in the best secondary in the league because he is the best player in that secondary.

            Grimes is a great player, with some great years behind him, and most likely some great years ahead of him. The “matches up #1″ idea is flawed and silly. Ike Taylor matches up #1 wide receivers almost every game that Pittsburgh plays, and has been doing it for years, that doesn’t mean he is on the same level as the best corners in the league.

            Just to point something out, since you decided to ride the Richard Sherman train, if I was, in fact, to consider him elite it would bust open your entire third paragraph considering he was drafted in the fifth round. Just saying. Y’all go on throwing the word elite around just for the sake of using it, that’s fine, but you’re never going to convince me that it’s worth it, nor are you going to change my criteria for considering the word as an adequate description of a player’s level of play.

          • Chris

            1. I am a Bengals fan, and I would consider Burfict an above average LB who benefits from a strong DL allowing him to rack up a ton of tackles from his WILL position. I’d love to see them move him to MIKE and Maualuga back to his natural position at SAM, and see how Burfict handles a more involved role. As of now I’d classify him as Good.

            2. AJ18 is borderline elite. It’s hard to judge him properly because for the majority of his career he’s been the only quality receiver, meaning he consistently faces double teams, and he’s had an average QB throwing to him. Dalton has a habit of forcing the ball into him even when he isn’t open, instead of going through his reads. This leads to a lower catch ratio than he should have. But he still managed to rank top 5 in yards last year. He is still guilty of some drops, which he needs to work on. He also tends to disappear at times, although that is largely related to the number of double teams he faces. I would classify him as High Quality.

            3. I’m not denying that Sherman is a great corner. He certainly is very smart and can read routes/schemes better than most. However, because he plays in such a talented defense (great safeties, good cover LBs, and a great pass rush), he can afford to be aggressive and act on this instincts, constantly pushing the envelope. He plays a lot of cover 3 zone, which relies heavily on keeping your eyes in the backfield and being cognizant of who’s running routes through your area. He’s probably the best in the league at this.

            But you cannot say he is the best in man coverage, nor that marking up on #1s don’t matter. Sure Ike Taylor matches up a lot, and no that doesn’t make him good. I never said that a player is good just because they mark up #1s all the time. The key is to be so good that you get handed those tougher assignments, and then continue to produce and excel. Grimes, Peterson, and most importantly Revis and Haden handle these tougher assignments and continue to produce like #1 corners.

            It’s easier to lock down one side of the field, It makes your assignments and reads easier because you’re only dealing with a certain selection of routes/moves/reads, so you can focus on those and react quickly/aggressively. You also get to match up on #2/3 receivers about half the time, when teams move their #1 across the field.

            But guys who track #1s across the field have to know how to read/react to all routes, opening up in both directions, going over the middle, and sometimes manning the slot. They’re responsible for so many more routes and assignments, and they’re constantly matching up against the best receiver on the field. The fact that those 3 guys lead the league in tracking #1s and still excel at their position gives them an advantage over Sherman, who plays just on the left side and plays a lot of Cover 3.

            In terms of coverage skills, I’d rank Haden, Revis, Grimes, and Leon Hall ahead of Sherman in pure coverage skills.

            4. I said your definition of elite makes it “almost impossible” for a player selected late to become elite at some point. Because USUALLY they aren’t handed starting roles early, and then you require them to produce at an elite level for at least 4 years. So MOST of those guys are 30+ by the time they earn a spot and meet your requirements, meaning they’re declining by that point.

            I didn’t say it never happens.

            What about Geno Atkins? 4th round pick who was a rotational player his first year. Started in 2011, 2012, and 2013 and by now I’d consider him the best in the league at the position, although McCoy makes a very good case.

            Is Atkins elite in your opinion? He’s only produced for 3 years, one of which was shortened by injury but he was playing at a top 5 level prior to that.

          • Kyle

            1) I put Burfict very high on my linebacker list because he is able to do everything, not just make tackles. He covers well, he calls the defense well, makes stops at the line, or behind it, rather than down the field, he moves well through blockers and in space, and he is constantly playing hard. He has not made it to best in the league, but I think it is a legitimate possibility for him.

            2) A.J. drops the ball far too much, and I like Dalton a lot, both of them have significant room for improvement. I would prefer Dalton forcing the ball to Green, than when he decides it’s a good idea to force it to Gresham or Eifert. A.J. is supposed to be the receiver that will make plays when a pass is forced his way against double coverage, he needs to start doing that more consistently.

            3) Sherman plays arguably the best press coverage I have ever seen, and just because he isn’t always shadowing the number one receiver, doesn’t mean it’s not asked of him. The first 49ers game, he shadowed, and physically overpowered, Anquan Boldin. I liked Sherman before that, I loved him after. Boldin is never outmatched physically, he has built his career on it, and Sherman held him on the line as if it was nothing, on multiple occasions. Haden doesn’t impress me often. I always expect more from him, but when I watch him, it just isn’t there. I love Leon, but I put J Jo over him, and I wouldn’t put Joseph above Sherman at this stage of career. Revis may still have Sherman, but I don’t think he has him as significantly as you make it seem. He has help in his secondary, but as the best player in that secondary, he also provides a majority of that help. I’ve always thought that too much emphasis is put on the coverage of the number one or two receiver. He hasn’t been beaten when he has been put in coverage on the top receiver, so he clearly has that ability.

            4) No. I consider him the best player at his position. I wasn’t kidding, or using hyperbole, when I said I don’t use that term. I think it’s a silly description, and I don’t use it as an adjective for anybody. Every player in the NFL fits the definition of elite, by being in the NFL. I get so tired of hearing the word used.

          • Chris

            Leon Hall had the best grade per snap ratio of all corners last year. He just didn’t play enough snaps due to his injury to rank high enough in overall grade.

            He is not only better than Joseph, he’s more versatile as he can play the slot.

          • corners

            hasnt sherman only had 3 good season also?!

          • Kyle

            I am not sure what your point is…

          • Jordan MacGeever

            Kyle with his own ridiculous conclusion for elite players….from your logic Jamaal Charles is NOT an elite RB.

          • Kyle

            True. I also couldn’t really care less what you think about my conclusion regarding elite players. It shouldn’t be easy for a player to join the level of the so called elite, therefore, it isn’t. Be mad.

          • Jordan MacGeever

            if your top 5 at your position for 2 years and top 10 for 3 years that’s elite simple as that and you would be paid like you’re elite

          • Kyle

            Sure. You can set that as your criteria if you’d like.

        • Chris from the Cape

          Talk like that makes me miss ol’ master Yoda.
          In any case I think its mainly universal that its only Sherman, Revis + Peterson pass that threshold.

          • Jordan MacGeever

            apart from the fact Grimes is better cover corner than Peterson

          • Chris from the Cape

            I’ll admit I’m including Peterson based on heresay, but in any case think Grimes is closer to an Talib or Verner type talent than Sherman or Revis. I think top 10 qualifies as ‘very good’ rather than ‘elite’ but in any case Grimes was hardly on the field for two of those years (11’+12′) you credit him as establishing such a reputation.

    • wyzel

      Elite is top 50in the league. whom are you referring to as worse who is elite?

  • Jordan MacGeever

    also Jimmy Wilson is a nickel CB and FS so he should be included instead of Jalil Brown who probably won’t make the 53

  • Chris

    Tannehill is better than Alex Smith? I guess it’s possible but if he’s a “good starter”, than so is Smith.

    • Chris

      I’d say 100% Tannehill is better than Alex Smith

      • Chris

        7th compared to 24th overall grade last year, 6th to 29th passing.

        • kse214

          The Dolphins have 3 extremely underrrated players in Grimes, Tannehill, and Starks, and I should probably even put Wake in that category. I think Tannehill proves this year he is a 2nd-tier NFL QB, in the same discussion as those in the group behind Brady, Manning, and Rodgers. His major weakness is a lack of a feel for the rush, but having the quality of being too willing to stay in the pocket can be improved mush more easily than the Blaine Gabbert syndrome. Tannehill is tough as nails (see the 2012 game vs Seattle, last year’s game vs Pit, Bal, and Atl, etc.)… He also never checks down. That is another easily improvable trait. His only other arguable weakness that I can think of is accuracy on his deep ball, but given his intermediate accuracy, the zip on his ball, and Mike Wallace being a retard I again think he shows major improvement. For non-Dolphins fans I can understand the hesitancy in giving Tannehill credit, but for Dolphins fans who really watch him I don’t understand how there can be much doubt on him.

    • foReal

      Give Tannehill some of the loaded teams Alex had and Ryan would make more noise in the playoffs.

    • bobrulz

      If Tannehill had a decent offensive line he would be a borderline top 10 quarterback.

      Watch out for him this year.

  • Jordan MacGeever

    there are a few issues with the roster as well. Yeatman and Watkins aren’t even on the roster. You forgot Derrick Shelby and Mike Gillislee.

    • Jordan MacGeever

      Brandon Fields as only a good starter is a bit odd too. Not sure how he’s not a high quality starter?

    • Pygskyn

      Gillislee and Shelby are both up there. (May have been added after your comment though, but they were there 5 hours ago)

      • Jordan MacGeever

        haha yes I asked him to change it :)

  • Chris

    Miami has the potential to be really, really good.

    • Anthony Girodo

      Last year I thought Reshad Jones was the key guy on the team. If he became a Pro Bowl player they become a playoff team. This year I feel its Grimes, they need him to be 90% or better as he was last year for them to be over .500. The roster is better overall no doubt. I don’t think Jones ever takes that next step (I’d have him average).

      • Chris

        I haven’t delved into the specifics of the roster yet, but this is what I have off the top of my head.

        The offense should continue to improve as Tannehill continues to develop. It will also help to have all their WRs healthy and a someone good OL compared to last year’s disaster. More time always equals better production.

        Defensively, they should still be pretty good. That front 4 may struggle a bit against the run compared to last year, but the pass rush should still be just as lethal (at times). Also the rotation on the DL is quite deep so I see that unit playing pretty well.

        The secondary should still be somewhat average a unit in its entirety.

        The biggest need for improvement, and the key to any real success this season is going to be the LB corps. They were terrible last year in all phases. They need to improve against the run, especially without Soliai eating blockers, but they especially need to get better in coverage.

        I think improved OL and LB play could help propel this team solidly into the Wild Card race, potentially around 10 wins.

        • thenextone82

          Yeah, the Dolphins need one more good LB and one more good player in the secondary. Hopefully, one of last year’s rookie CBs can step up.
          Ellerbe might actually be decent as an OLB. It’s pretty scary that Misi is going to be calling plays and leading the defense though. He should be good at stopping the run, but he’s not that kind of leader. Every defense needs a leader from either the LBs or secondary. The Dolphins haven’t had it since Yeremiah Bell left.

          • corners

            i think we need 2. One in the secondary, like a fs, and someone at lb or like Jason Taylor. Still regret we did not draft earl thomas instead of odrick and misi.

        • corners

          we i think we screwed up letting patterson and carrol go for finnegan.Carrol had upside and went for the ball, and patterson at least got ints while he did play.Finnegan is already hurt i guess.

          I still cant believe we let reggie bush walk for miller and thomas. Thats what exposed our oline last season, bush was making plays with a putrid oline and miller/thomas just werent..

  • Fintasy

    So much green on the offense. Yet they consistently have among the poorest offenses in the league, year in and year out

    • Chris from the Cape

      As a Pats fan I’ve watched you all wait for a legitimately good QB from @ 1998 until last year. There were encouraging (for you) signs last year, like against ‘my’ team and that Falcons win, but between the media circus and O line issues I don’t think that much could be expected: better times are likely ahead.

  • chillermonster

    I am surprised to see the QB and the entire starting receiving corps rated as good. Considering how much Miami passed last year I just figured they had to be terribly inefficient at it.

    • Jordan MacGeever

      that doesn’t make sense

      • chillermonster

        They had the 10th most pass attempts in the league…volume tends to depress efficiency…got it?

        • Jordan MacGeever

          yeah but we got better in off season passing game was okay will be better next year running game and OL hurt passing attack

          • chillermonster

            That’s sorta my point. The lack of a running game usually leads to poor passing game advanced metrics. I guess maybe the depth chart player ratings are more forward looking? Specifically, I have never really considered Wallace or Hartline to be “good” wide receivers. Wallace tends to be a one-trick pony and Hartline is just not that athletically gifted.

          • Pygskyn

            Huh, wait.. Hartline not athletically gifted? He ran a 4.49 second 40 and a 6.65 Second three cone drill. He’s fast and very very quick. Add into that that Hartline is one of the most surehanded recievers in the league (he was 11th in the league last time I checked) and is able to get off the line against press coverage and yeah, the guy is a very good quality receiver who has broken 1000 yards 2 years in a row and is averaging nearly 15 Yards per reception over his career.

          • Jordan MacGeever

            I guess he means acceleration and leaping ability. But that’s not Hartline’s game he is still a good WR though and so is Wallace both would start on 75% of teams so they have to be classed as “good” starters

          • chillermonster

            Is that the definition that PFF is using to classify someone as “good”? Do they have a bell curve or something that they fit the classes to? I would think that “good” would mean that they could be a low end WR1 for an NFL team. Both of these guys are complementary players.

          • Jordan MacGeever

            most WR 1’s are high quality starters Wallace and Hartline are both probably in the 30’s-40’s of WR rankings

          • chillermonster

            His 3-cone and 20yd are good, so yeah, the quickness is there. but 4.58 (which is his combine 40 time) at less than 200lbs is pretty weak and his leaping scores are not great either. His sure handedness is great, but is not a measure of athleticism, which is what I commented on. FWIW, I like him better than Wallace, who is one of the more overrated/overpaid WR’s in the league.

          • Pygskyn

            His combine 40 time was actually a 4.52 not 4.58 (not sure where NFL.com got that number from, every source I checked outside of them had him at 4.52 then 4.49 at his pro day) which is pretty fast for a 6’2″ receiver with 32″ arms and 10″ hands (which makes up for his leaping scores, but admittedly, his 34.5″ vert was pretty weak).

  • Chris from the Cape

    I’m surprised to see Moreno listed as better than an average starter, as outside of his complementary work in an all-world passing offense last year, he’s been a big disappointment for a first round pick. I found reports that Miami isn’t too impressed so far either, and that he’s now working primarily behind Lamar Miller with the backups as reported yesterday in the link below.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1114939/knowshon-moreno

    • Chris

      I 100% agree here and I really don’t understand their rating. They’ve run several articles this year detailing how Moreno isn’t as good as he seemed last year and he’ll be due for a regression. He’s never been anything special and I’d classify him as average, which is definitely a bust for a former 1st rounder.

      • Topher Doll

        It’s because they don’t base their rating on OTA’s (smartly). And anyone who watched him last year knows he was better than average.

        • Chris

          I would disagree 100%. He’s been nothing but average throughout his career PRIOR to Peyton. Then he has two above average, albeit injury riddled, years with Peyton running the offense.

          The bottom line is, Peyton is the best ever at the position. He doesn’t quite have the arm strength anymore, but he still has the best mind the game has ever seen in terms of reading defensive schemes and getting the team in the right plays.

          Moreno was a 1st round pick from the SEC, meaning he should have all the athletic talent to succeed at the position. He was average at best his first 3 years, above average with Peyton, and now he will regress back to average without Peyton.

          I’m not basing anything on OTAs, but it doesn’t exactly inspire confidence that their new RB signing is watching his backup run with the first team. It would not surprise me at all to see Miller get more carries on early downs, with Moreno taking 3rd down duties as he is the better receiver and blocker.

          • Topher Doll

            You can tell the difference between someone who just reads the news from OTA’s and those who watch the games, sorry.

          • Chris

            I’m not the one that made the original post about OTAs? My reply to him said that I’ve seen PFF run several articles about Moreno this offseason and how he’s do for a regression, and I agree. That’s why I said I’m surprised by the grade they gave him here.

  • Jordan MacGeever

    Grimes rated 34th best player in 2013 so all logical conclusions would say he is elite. As I’m almost 100% sure there will be around 40-45 elites in this series

  • BartDePalma

    Gordon:

    Here are some updates to your depth chart based on the OTAs.

    WR1 – Wallace, Williams D (Hazel is third string)
    WR2 – Hartline, Binns
    WR3 (Slot) – Matthews, Landry (Gibson is still injured and may end up on IR).
    LT – Albert, Garner

    LG – Thomas, Turner
    RG – Smith, Wallace
    DRT – Mitchell, Odrick
    DLT – Starks, Johnson
    MLB (Tripp is playing 3d String MLB and will probably overtake Trusnik by camp).
    RCB – Finnegan, Taylor, Aikens (Finnegan has nailed down #2 CB, coaches are raving)
    LCB – Grimes, Davis, Brown
    NCB – Wilson, Gaitor
    FS – Jones, Kovacs (Wilson can play FS, but he is currently the NCB).

    Hope this helps.

    • Jordan MacGeever

      no chance Gibson goes on IR….and Wilson is the back up FS and Nickel he can do both. If Delmas gets hurt Wilson moves to FS Finnegan into the slot and Taylor as the boundary.

      • BartDePalma

        Gibson is still hobbled. If he is not up to full speed by camp, then MIA may want to stow him for next season either on the PUP or IR.

        Finnegan is practicing too well to be moved to NB unless Taylor has shown substantial improvement. Gaitor has NB experience and Davis has been groomed since last year for this position.

        As a side note, if Finnegan has recovered his old Titan form, Miami could have one hell of a talented and deep secondary.

        • Jordan MacGeever

          Finnegan plays 50% of his snaps in the nickel has his whole career….also Gibson would get cut if he’s hobbled in camp

          • BartDePalma

            Different set of DBs, different DC, different defense. MIA could very well move Finnegan to NB for certain games and certain receivers, but so far he is starting and practicing on the perimeter opposite Grimes.

            Depending on his dead money, Gibson could indeed get cut. MIA has a very deep competition at WR this year.

    • Jordan MacGeever

      everyone knows Wilson would play FS if Delmas got hurt

      • BartDePalma

        There are a number of potential lateral moves in the depth chart because players are cross trained. Wilson is currently the starting NB and not the backup FS in the depth chart.

  • Jordan MacGeever

    Secondary depth chart looks something like at the moment:
    RCB: Grimes, Davis, Aikens
    LCB: Finnegan, Taylor, Brown
    NCB: Wilson, Finnegan, Gaitor
    FS: Delmas, Wilson, Kovacz
    SS: Jones, Jones

    • Jordan MacGeever

      so you’re pretty much dead on, on this just put Wilson as NCB too

  • Rick S.

    How is Grimes not elite? He made PFFs All-Pro team

    • Pygskyn

      They said that elite is the top 50 or so players regardless of position. If only 1 or 2 CB’s make the elite grade overall, then all is as it should be, but if they end up putting 4-5 CB’s in the elite group and leave out Grimes… then there should be issues.

      • thenextone82

        That would be Grimes. He was ranked #23 overall on PFF, wasn’t he?

        • Pygskyn

          I’m not sure where he was ranked for his production last year (I don’t have a subscription yet) but Grimes age also is probably a consideration (He is on the wrong side of 30 after all), after all their rankings were based solely on last years production. I think Grimes is going to be a top 3 CB next year, but perhaps the staff here don’t have the same level of faith in him going forward that I do.

          • Jordan MacGeever

            he was ranked 23rd

          • kse214

            Maybe PFF is buying into the non-hype Grimes gets compared to guys like Revis, Sherman, Talib, Haden, etc. Grimes is elite by PFF’s standards imo,

  • Jake

    Wake should be elite. He picked up most of his grade in four games because he got hurt and was out/hobbled for half the season. If you’re going to knock him for being injured it would make more sense but I still disagree.

    • Anthony Girodo

      Wake is right where he should be, he can affect a game on any play. The other D-lineman should change. Starks, good, Odrick, average, Vernon good.

      • Jordan MacGeever

        Wake was top 20 player in the league in 2012 the only reason why he isn’t elite was his injury

        • kse214

          Agree but I would even say he was a top 10 player in all of the NFL in 2012. Odrick played out of position that year and Wake only had Starks as a source of help in pass rush.

  • Anthony Girodo

    Have a hard time believing Sims is poor quality he is going to be 22 this season! Miami just had to many nothing plays last season. Moreno will def help just getting someone the ball instead of throwing it away.

    • Pygskyn

      I agree. I don’t have a subscription, so I don’t know what his blocking numbers looked like last year, but I still have faith that the kid could be rock solid given half a chance.

    • Ole Einar Bjørndalen

      I dont know how they can call Sims poor quality, but not have enough info to make a decision on Egnew yet

  • thenextone82

    That analysis is very accurate. The Dolphins RBs were awful last year. Moreno should help in that area. Brandon Albert is going to be a HUGE help to everyone on the offense. I must be the biggest Rishard Matthews fan. No one else seems to like him. He’s an awesome #4 WR. I guess PFF + the Dolphins don’t see it that way; or else they wouldn’t have drafted Landry.

    • Pygskyn

      Well, about Matthews, notice he is listed as an “Average Starter” that means average for a #1 or #2 guy, which really is pretty awesome for a #4 WR. This just shows how insanely deep we are at WR. I believe the Landry pick was due to two reasons.
      1.) The staff is gunshy about the injuries last year and want more depth in case somebody doesn’t come back at 100%.
      2.) Landry was just rediculous value for where we drafted him. Any other year he would have been a late first round pick. They just couldn’t pass it up.
      I hope that Moreno get’s his act together after showing up to camp out of shape, because if the RB’s can get anywhere near the level of depth and quality of the rest of the offense… well, this O is going to be very, very potent.

  • Litework

    How is Tannehill a good starter? Did you check his numbers in weeks 16 and 17 when the Dolphins choked away a playoff spot? His numbers for the entire year were mediocre.

  • corners

    I think Wake still has a few years in him. He still ahsnt been in the league that long, so he doesn’t have nearly as much wear and tear as 10 year starters.

    I also think Grimes is elite.

    Brandon Fields is arguably the best punter in the NFL, how is he just a good starter?

  • SPVANDERWAHL

    Tannehill should be an average starter, if his performance next season is like it was last season, they’ll be drafting a QB in the first round next season.

  • Jordan MacGeever

    who’s Ron Parker? haha

  • Jordan MacGeever

    Dallas Thomas has been the starting LG in OTA’s

  • Darell Canup

    No way Shelly is an average starter. He ranked as one of the worst pass blocking guards in the entire league last year. He WON’T be the starter for the dolphins. Thomas is the starter at LG and Turner or Brenner will be the starter at RG. Shelly is a backup and not a very good one.

    • kse214

      Not sure on Shelly Smith because I haven’t noticed him play, but no way Brenner starts this year even if Pouncey is still injured.

  • corners

    So whats the diffrence from high quality to elite for Grimes?