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I still don’t get how Brady’s short, quick (and definitely accurate) throws to let his receivers get YAC equalled a better PFF grade than any grade earned by Manning in his 2013 season.
Edelman was the highest graded receiver on the week, and Gronk was the highest graded TE. The offensive output vs. a subpar pass defense just wasn’t that impressive for all 3 players to earn “best of the week” honors, not over 31-62 other candidates.
Slow down the grade inflation, PFF!
Exactly. Most QBs get dinged for what they call ‘easy’ passes. The others get +10 for making ‘good decisions’.
lol short doesn’t mean easy pass, a short pass thrown in a tight window or with pressure (or both) is very difficult. It also help when you complete a lot of them, which he did.
Dude, you’re killing me with your comments. We all agree that short passes aren’t easy. I said ‘they’. As in, PFF.
Dude a short pass can be easy if there is no pressure and the receiver is wide open, you implied in your comment all short passes are same. Rodgers graded poorly in the 5 touch down performance due tot he fact none of the passes he completed were difficult and the fact he wasn’t facing a lot of pressure.
It took me way to long to realize you’re either a troll or a PFF Fanboy. Either way we’re not going to see eye to eye on this. Its been nice deciphering (look it up) your comments.
Dude It took me two seconds to realize that you have no idea what you are talking about. I am sorry you don’t listen to logic, and the fact you don’t know what decipher means.
This is a change of pace PFF usually dings brady for his style of play so the fact their giving him praise says something. But even FO gave Brady a really high DYAR this week but he was 4th behind brees, carr and palmer.
Nah they just ding him on the days where he throws easy passes to wide open recievers. If he performs well under pressure or has to fit throws in to tight spaces, they grade him well. Short and intermediate pass does not always equal easy pass.
Also Brady did deserve a really high grade seeing how both of his tackles were really bad. Just think of that 350 yards 4 touchdowns and your tackles were the worst in league that week.
But tackles have almost no effect on Brady’s game if the WRs are allowed free releases (as they were by Miami’s secondary). If Brady can make a presnap read and put the ball in Edelman’s/Gronk’s hands five yards down the field then the OTs can be beat on every play and Brady won’t even be touched (unless the opposition really wants a roughing penalty).
No doubt it was a good game, but better than every single one of Manning’s games from 2013, when he *averaged* 350 yards/3.5 TDs/game?
Again, playing at home vs. Miami’s secondary I can’t see it as anything other than a good game by Brady. A plus 7.6 is a stratospheric grade, not a “good” or even “very good” grade. I’d agree with the DYAR ranking.
Re-watching the game they didnt get a lot of outrageous YAC he had the 2 screens to Lewis and the go ahead TD at the end of the half and the gronk touchdown all of that accounted for about 70 or 80 yards of YAC the rest of it was brady.
(Cont.) Also re-watching that game the tackles were horrible they got pressure in bradys face a lot the entire game even in the second half the only problem was that he didnt get sacked a lot(once in the first half once in the second half) but he was pressured all night.
It was edge pressure, and mostly just “hurries” (as opposed to hits or sacks, which put a lot larger mental toll on QBs). What does edge pressure do to Brady? He was rarely hit (4 hits & 2 sacks on 40 drop backs), and pressure off the edges doesn’t mess with his footwork, his ability to look downfield, or his ability to deliver an accurate, on-time pass.
He wasn’t dancing around to get routes open. He wasn’t sitting in to deliver big downfield throws. He did a good job at running the gameplan, but it wasn’t the best QB performance of the past 3 years (but it was graded like it was).
Of course he wasn’t dancing around in the pocket when does Brady ever do that? I think we’re having two different conversations I don’t think it was a phenomenal performance but that doesn’t change the fact that he was really great. They didn’t get a tremendous amount of YAC and rematch the game the lack of hits was because of him not the o line he got the ball out quick. It was a great performance not the best in 3 years but great nonetheless to argue anything more would just be arguing semantics
pressure hurts other qbs dude you see it all the time, you also aren’t giving him credit for for his quick release. If he didn;t get rid of the ball quickly he and the offense would have had a terrible game. What is he supposed to do sit in the pocket and get hit on every throw, and take sacks.
Yes, pressure can effect a QB. No, I don’t expect him to take sacks. But a +7.6 grade is the highest grade for a QB I remember seeing in 3 years on PFF. Higher than any game by Manning in his 2013 season, where he set just about every QB record there is to set. Brady had a good game, and threw quick, accurate passes. He did not have the best game by a QB in the last three years. Hopefully that isn’t “too hard to understand”.
So the fact that peyton manning never recieved a grade that high means brady doesn’t deserve that grade. Sorry i disagree.
Nobody received a grade that high. I doubt this was even Brady’s best game of the past three years- probably not even his best grade this season.
Yes, consistency in grading matters. If grades don’t reflect performance, (and relative performance is certainly a valid indicator), then the grades are meaningless. Brady’s game was good. It was not better than all of Manning’s 2013 games. It probably was not better than Brady’s own 2015 games. It therefor should not have been graded so highly.
According to you
You are certainly welcome to use any metric you want. I want one that makes sense. For instance, what aspect of this game was Brady better at than he’s been in any of his other games this season?
Or, compare Manning’s best grade of the 2013 season vs. what Brady did last Thursday:
Mann vs. Tenn: was 39 of 59 for 397 yards, 4 TDs, and 0 INTs. He largely targeted his outside WRs (Decker 8 of 12 for 117 yds, 1 TD; DT 7 of 10 for 88 yards, 1 TD), who were being covered by PFF’s top rated CB duo at the time (McCourty and Verner). In addition, the game was played in bitter cold weather (10ºF by the final gun) and Manning drove the ball inside the 5 yard line on 4 other drives and then was asked to hand it off rather than throw it.
Brady vs. Miami: was 26 of 38 for 356 yards, 4 TDs, and 0 INTs. He was mostly throwing short crossing routes to his TE, SWR, and RB, and most of the time those receivers were not under tight coverage. It was a good game, and Brady deserves credit for beating the pass rush. But it wasn’t a record-breaking performance, Brady was able to lead relatively few sustained drives, and throwing against Miami’s subpar LBs and safeties is not the same as throwing against the best CB duo in the league- shallow crossing routes are easier to hit in the first place, and having open receivers makes the pass that much easier.
It’s not at all the same level of difficulty, yet Brady actually got a higher grade in an easier situation. When that happens it is time to question the grading system. To be fair to PFF, such grade outliers frequently are corrected down in the subsequent re-grading on Tues and Weds, but since PFF has decided that we no longer deserve the opportunity to pay to see their grades, I’m going to decide to remain quite critical of the grading in this case.
Fair enough your entitled to your opinion and i am entitled to mine.
He was under pressure the whole game, the short passes didn’t prevent the pressure.
he completed a lot of passes under pressure, so in other words he completed a lot of difficult passes. Its isn’t that hard to understand.
They use the same scoring metrics for each QB. Don’t be a homer.
The metric is a -2.0 to +2.0 grade for every play, based on the judgement of the scorer. No two plays are exactly the same, so it is impossible to say whether the metrics are evenly applied regardless of QB. Brady’s grade was the highest I remember seeing for any QB in the last 4 years, whereas the results on the field didn’t speak to the best game by a QB in the last 4 years. I’d be very curious to see what Brady’s grade looked like after 3 rounds of review- I suspect it would be more along the lines of +3 to +4- still very good, and potentially the best of the week, but a far cry from a +8 grade, which would fall in the “best game by any QB in the last 4 seasons” territory.
thumbs down on video content. just spell it out guys.
3) Richard Sherman SEA +5.1
2) Tom Brady NE +7.6
1) JJ Watt HOU +14.9
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