Shutdown Corners: Richard Sherman V Darrelle Revis

| 2013/01/25

[Editor's note: Bringing this back to the top briefly -- the conversation marches on.]

We’ve said a few times this season that, in the absence of Darrelle Revis, Seattle’s Richard Sherman was the one player stepping up to claim the mantle as the league’s toughest shutdown corner. Judging by twitter, it seems Sherman agrees.

Late last night or early this morning depending on your time zone, Sherman tweeted that many things can lie, but numbers don’t, and posted a statistical comparison between himself and Revis. Of course, those numbers for corners don’t even scratch the surface of the data, but we can.

PFF goes way deeper, so I decided to run some numbers and come up with a proper statistical comparison between the two players. We’re going to stick to Sherman’s 2012 season. His rookie year was impressive, but he didn’t play the full season and it wasn’t a patch on his most recent year.

For Revis we’re going to discount the 2010 season in which he was clearly hampered with injury, and have created a three-year average from his most recent complete seasons of play (2008, 2009, and 2011) to put up against Sherman.

What Do The PFF Grades Show?

Well perhaps the most interesting thing is that their average PFF grades are almost the same. Sherman finished last year with a +25.1 overall grade and +26.4 in coverage. Revis’ three-year average is +26.3 and +22.4. Those numbers might seem abstract, but they come from a play-by-play analysis of both players on every snap of the game, giving them credit for impressive plays in the biggest situations and assigning blame when they blow plays regardless of the outcome of those plays. In short, those numbers are the most comprehensive analysis you will find of their play, and they stack up extremely closely.

There are things that even those numbers don’t account for, though. Sherman plays almost exclusively left cornerback in the Seahawks’ defense, while Revis will track No. 1 receivers across the field and into the slot. Sherman has only done that sparingly this season, and heavily on only one occasion — against, Stevie Johnson, Revis’ biggest test. There is no doubt that Revis is asked to do more, drawing an opponent’s toughest receiver on almost every play, while Sherman has to rely on them being lined up to the open side of the formation or in a two-receiver set to the left slot.

That being said, Sherman’s role isn’t warping his numbers the way Nnamdi Asomugha’s role used to distort his in Oakland. Like Sherman, Asomugha rarely tracked receivers, but unlike him, he would play the right cornerback spot almost exclusively and there was nobody else in that Oakland secondary that teams respected, so they could simply ignore him and take him out of the game. Sherman plays on the opposite side, the side of the field that quarterbacks target more frequently as right-handers, and he has a formidable secondary to back him up and ensure that there is no easy path to completions. Consequently, his target numbers remain healthy, certainly as compared to Asomugha’s in Oakland.

From 2008-10 the Oakland corner averaged 29 targets per season hidden away on the blindside. He was thrown at less than twice per game for three years. Sherman was thrown at 87 times in 2012 and Revis has averaged over 93 targets in his seasons. Though their roles are notably different, both players have seen their fair share of targets and both have spent the majority of their time locked-up in man coverage. We can evaluate their coverage in the way we could never adequately do for Asomugha in Oakland.

How Did They Perform When Targeted?

Sherman allowed 41 catches last year, or 47.1 percent of balls thrown his way, while Revis hasn’t allowed more than 49 in any season we have looked at, averaging 41.7 percent of targets to be completed in that three-year span. The edge goes to Revis, despite playing the slot frequently where receptions are often easier to come by.

If we look at yardage, again Revis has the edge, allowing an average of 481 receiving yards compared to the 634 Sherman gave up last year. Sherman allowed 1.07 receiving yards for every snap he was in coverage, while Revis’ mark is 0.8. That is a difference of a little more than 25 percent between the two, but in this instance working from the slot actually benefits Revis’ numbers slightly. Slot receivers tend to give up more receptions, but for smaller yardage than their boundary counterparts, so the snaps where Revis is following his man inside drive up his reception numbers but drive down his average.

When we look at how many yards after the catch were allowed, the advantage swings back in favor of Sherman. He gave up only 135 yards after the catch compared to the 155.3 yards that Revis averaged. This suggests that, by and large, Sherman was in tight attendance even when he was beaten for catches, allowing little before making the stop on the play, though both marks are impressive.

What Do The “Numbers” Show?

Lastly we come to the more tangible corner numbers. The big three: touchdowns allowed, interceptions, and passes defensed. Revis has only given up eight touchdowns over the past five seasons, and never more than three in a year. The two players are once again tough to separate in this category, with Sherman giving up just three in 2011. Sherman was able to pick off more passes last season than Revis has managed in any of his, but the number of passes he knocked down in addition to those picks matches the Revis average almost exactly. Sherman might have marginally better ball skills than Revis does, or rather is looking to make the interception more than Revis, who appears to target breaking up the pass more often than he does picking it off from watching the tape.

Opposing QBs had a passer rating of just 41.1 when targeting Sherman last season, and in targeting Revis over his last three healthy seasons they had a rating of 44.6, both incredibly good marks in a league where triple-digits have become the benchmark for good quarterback play, and the sign of some truly elite coverage.

The Bottom Line

Although Sherman may not be asked to do exactly what Revis does, his 2012 season does compare closely to what the Jets have been able to expect from their stud over the past few seasons. However — and this is a significant however — Sherman’s numbers don’t come close to the almost unfathomable season that Revis put together in 2009. That season drags up his average from a ‘good’ sophomore season and is comfortably better than any other single season looked at across the board, despite being his most heavily-targeted year. That year teams completed just 36.9 percent of the balls they threw Revis’ way, and passers had a rating of only 32.3 when they tried it.

This year saw Sherman make this a legitimate argument, but he still has a way to go if he is to reach the peaks that Revis has in his NFL career.

Richard Sherman isn’t quite the new Darrelle Revis, but he might be the closest thing we’ve seen. What will 2013 bring?

CategorySherman 2012Revis 3-year AverageDifference
Grade25.126.3DR +1.2
Coverage26.422.4RS +4.2
Penalties53.0DR - 2
Tackles5646.3RS +9.7
MTs64.0DR - 2
TA8793.3DR +6.3
Rec4141.7RS - 0.7
% Ct47.144.6DR - 2.5
Yards634481.0DR - 153
Avg15.511.5DR - 4
YAC135155.3RS - 20.3
Lg5647.7DR - 8.3
TD21.7DR - 0.3
INT85.0RS + 3
PD1515.7DR +0.7
QB Rating41.144.6RS - 3.5

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  • http://twitter.com/ToneLelly Tone Lellinger

    what are Revis’ numbers when he guards Welker?

    • Phresh

      Prolly low #’s cause Welker can’t beat tha press… Ask Carlos Rogers about that…

  • FreePalestine

    Nonsense, I’ve seen more impressive things by Sherman this season than Revis has ever done. Sherman has outrageously good ball skills and mixed with his freakish size, can match up 1 on 1 with the very best WRs in the NFL. Revis is often pulling a Nnamdi by covering some decoy while Tom Brady and other competent QBs torch the rest of that secondary to the tune of 300+ yards.

    • Phresh

      Revis is tha best Sherman is 2nd… get over it…

    • Jason80wood

      That is an idiotic comment. Revis has shut down the best receivers in the NFL consistently. Randy Moss (most ppl ignorantly reference the single TD he gave up against him over several years) Chad Johnson, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Reggie Wayne, T.O., Steve Smith, Roddy White, the list goes on. Not to mention he is doing this in legitimate cover zero packages with no safety over top. Unlike Sherman who often has safety help from the best safety tandem in the NFL. If Revis got any safety help over those three years shown it was from Eric Smith, Jim Leonhard, James Ihedigbo, and possibly a few others that are below average to put it lightly. 

    • bkbkbkb

      Ridiculously one sided comment. I doubt you’ve watched much Revis, because most of what you said describes him as well. I don’t know who is currently better, but I expect Sherm to be the best CB in football the next 5 years.

    • http://twitter.com/TomMcLaughlin11 Tom McLaughlin

      to be fair Revis can go 1 on 1 with the very best. But you are correct in that Revis is the ONLY good thing on the Jets defence. but that isn’t a reason as to why Sherman is better.

    • Bilal

      In the 48 revis games that were considered for this article, only 7 times did a qb throw 300+ yards .   So the basis of your theory doesn’t make sense.

      Wake me up when Sherman’s resume includes shutting down WRs like andre, calvin, roddy, wayne, TO, steve smith, vjax, ocho, randy, colston, dez, nicks/cruz(each got a half on the island)

      • Izach

        revis has been toasted by half those WRs you listed especially cruz, you forget to mention the guy sherman has shut down that revis faile to like fitz.

        • Bilal

          If you’re going to argue a point you should at least have facts to back it up. I’ll break down your points one by one

          “revis has been toasted by half those WRs you listed”

          Andre (1): 4 receptions 35 yards
          Andre (2): 4 receptions 32 yards
          Calvin: 1 reception 13 yards
          Roddy: 4 receptions 33 years
          Wayne (1): 3 receptions 33 yards
          Wayne (2): 3 receptions 5 yards
          Wayne (3): 1 reception 1 yard (playoffs)
          Colston: 2 receptions 33 yards
          Smith: 1 reception 5 yards
          -All of Vjax catches in the playoffs were on other cbs.  He had 0 catches against revis(not to mention his game changing pick on Vjax)
          -Don’t even have to bother posting TO and OCHO because even you can agree he shut those guys down.
          -Moss and Revis had great battles.  I’d say they broke even if we looked at all of their matchups.

          “especially cruz”
          Notice that I wrote one half each for Nicks and Cruz.  In that game, revis was targeted 8 times.  He only gave up a 20 yard reception to Nicks and an 11 yard reception to Devin Thomas.  PFF actually wrote an article breaking down Revis’ coverage on both elite WRs and was the highest ranked CB single game of the 2011 season.

          “sherman has shut down that revis faile to like fitz”
          Sherman, along with many other cbs “shut down” fitz this year because of his horrid QB.  Cro shut him down too but you’ll never catch me giving him credit for that game because I judge players honestly.

  • Mykel

    It’s a shame L. Webb wasn’t able to stay healthy this season.  It seems as though he is in the same class even though I haven’t had an opportunity to study him in this depth.

  • LinkMaster111

    Sherman is overrated. Maybe he should focus on not letting Roddy White absolutely own him in the playoffs and less on whether or not he’s better than Revis (which he clearly isn’t).

    • http://twitter.com/PFF_Sam Sam Monson

      White beat him once pretty badly for the TD. Aside from that on 4 into Sherman’s coverage White caught one pass for 13 yards while Sherman broke one up. At worst White edged the contest. Sherman was far from absolutely owned.

      • DVDA YEAH BRO

        To be fair, he was supposed to have safety help over the top on that one TD play.

        • mattylaps

          Shutdown corners usually don’t need “help”

      • Skfke

        Watch the play. Deep coverage on white went to their big safety. It wasn’t Sherman’s responsibility. For those of us who have played db, seattle’s scheme on that play is pretty easy to see. The linebacker sized safety got torched.

    • pbskids4000

      Linkmaster You are the definition of an ignorant fan

      • LinkMaster111

        An ignorant fan of what? I’m a Patriots fan, I hate the Jets. I’m just not dumb enough to think that Sherman is even close to Revis’ level.

        • Raptorace22

          Didn’t we just read that he is?

          • DaBronk

            “Sherman’s numbers don’t come close to the almost unfathomable season that Revis put together in 2009″

            Not really fair to compare Revis to Shermons single season. He has been an elite CB in 2012. He is going into his 3rd season… lets see how he does in the next couple of years.

          • PFF_Admin

            Which is why that was just one line rather than the focus of the article

          • Agcooney108

            we’re comparing an upcoming three year guy with an upcoming six year guy. come on now. as of right now sherman will probably be the closest to next best thing since revis. but revis right now is is the best thing since deion. if sherman puts in the work he will be like revis by the end of next year. guy already has deion’s attitude and play style, he just needs to perfect it.

          • Moeman79

            yhea if thats the case then should they compare revis’s best season to shermans?

          • ShermTheWorm

            Or how about the more sensible thing to do, which is compare sherm’s 2nd year to revis’ 2nd year?

          • GrizzleTRON

            Since when is 2009 relevent to 2012/13? That may be the case when looking at their career’s but I think it would be more accurate to look at their first 2 seasons to really compare these players.  NFL is a what have you dont for me lately, league. So, what has Revis done lately?

          • TheMadDawg

             Linkmaster- the safety blew the coverage on that play where Roddy “beat” Sherman for the TD. So no, the whole he got owned by Roddy is quite the exaggeration. Sherman was the best corner THIS year, but keeping it up for years to come like Revis has will be important in making more accurate comparisons in the future. If he stays healthy that would be another + in the Sherman category over Revis too. Time will tell on who is “better” but I don’t think that necessarily matters. Equal wouldn’t be a bad thing either. Best in the West and best in the East. 

          • Jacob

            I think we just read that DR was above Sherman, although DR was on an average of 3 years and Sherman was just ONE year.

        • stopit

          you’re an idiot stfu

        • ElmerMendez10

          LOL Correction he is a MAD fan that is still angry that his boy Brady got owned by Sherm.

        • Cf Clan4life

           You’re ignorant to the 2 swats Sherm had on White, plus the fact that he was supposed to have help over the top

          • Big Chris

            DR doesn’t ever get “help over the top.” RS needs to man up. While he posted a fine season he has a wayyyyys to go to equal DR’s resume

        • Hfgkdafd

          you mad bro?

    • http://www.facebook.com/patrickjamesfay Patrick James Fay

      I don’t think you understand the words you write, hater.

      “absolutely own”?

    • Abc

      That one deep ball was a blown coverage by the safety if you watch it again.

      • Jacob

        This is the problem with people reading stats and not understanding them to their full extent. PFF grades a player no matter who committed the blown coverage. It was still a “blown coverage”. It would go as a negative to both the safety and the cornerback. That excuse doesn’t work in Sherman’s favor

    • Dfsd

      You know, it’s usually a good idea to read an article before you comment on it.

    • HiThere

      “Despite the statistics, I am a fanboy who solely forms opinion based on emotion (and twitter feeds), and thusly I adorn Richard Sherman with the heinous over-rated label.  Good day, sir.”

      • Izach

        at leas youadit it which i more tha most ppl on this site can do.

    • MDM5

      Owned by Roddy White… on 1 (huge, i admit) play. Rest of the game: 4 catches, 29 yds and 2 ridiculous pass deflections. Guess you saw the highlights and think that allows you an expert judgment.
      Bottom line is Revis has had several  great seasons and 99.9% of the league will have Revis ahead (Sherman being the .1%). revis is the ultmiate benchmark as far as DB goes and the only fact to be in the same ranges of numbers is already amazing accomplishment for the 3rd roun pick and 2nd year pro.
      GO HAWKS!

      • Izach

        id ratherhave sherman,he is bigger, stronger, handles the “BIG” WRs better and tackles better. also gets more INTs and isnt injury prone as revis seems to get when he gets beat/mossed.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1331280558 Anthony Cooney

          lol stop kidding yourself, you’ve never seen revis play then. the reason why revis doesn’t get more “INTs” is cause he’s rarely thrown to. by the way, revis got beat on a holdout season to randy moss (one of the most physical and best deep threat receivers of our generation, )and took a bad step and tore is ACL. go watch some football. and did you not see how he stopped brandon marshall his whole career? i mean he’s only one of the top 10 receivers in football, no big deal.

          • Kindamadbro

            You can’t use the rarely thrown to argument when the stats show they get roughly the same amount of targets….. So tell me again how Revis is clearly better???

          • Jacob

            He is clearly better according to the stats. When you lead the opposing player in the stats that answer the question directly, it signifies that Revis is clearly better. And like PFF pointed out the Seahawks play with an all-around better secondary than the Jets. You can’t state that Revis isn’t clearly better when the stats point to him being “clearly” better. He leads in the statistical categories that are necessary to own that title.

        • Jacob

          Let me address one thing. Moss will burn anybody when he tries. Secondly, Sherman is in year 2 and only played part of his rookie season, we have yet to see if he is “injury prone”. Tearing an ACL isn’t being injury prone. There is nothing a player can do to prevent that type of injury. So, that doesn’t prove he is injury prone. He also suffered a concussion, which as recent medical history has shown us isn’t anything to risk as a player. So, your argument of him being injury prone is weak.

          Revis “handles” big receivers fine. He shut down Brandon Marshall, Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Vincent Jackson, etc. So, once again, your argument isn’t valid. Try again.

    • Gohawks

      I highly doubt he will be overlooked for the Pro Bowl again

    • ElmerMendez10

      His production says otherwise.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jeremy.evans.7359 Jeremy Evans

      how is he overrated, look at the tape. he only caught 2 passes on him dumb dumb

    • Jiaen

      You should go back and see who owned who in that game. The only time White got anything was when he was against browner, was in the slot, or when Cam Chancellor didnt do his assignment and bring help over the top, Sherman owned White.

    • Jrl11188

      He only had one catch against Sherman in that game. Granted it was a huge TD and even if Sherman didn’t fall Roddy had him beat. I am also a Pats fan and dont like the jets and also agree that revis should be considered better at this point but to say Roddy White owned Sherman that game after only getting one catch all day is a little excessive.

    • guest

       Roddy white had 1 catch against sherman.  Its kind of hard to overrate a
      guy who was literally the best CB in football this season. 

      And yes Revis had a better 09 season than Sherman did, but that was his third season.  Sherman had a much better 2nd season than revis did.  You are trying to compare a more experienced player.  No one is knocking Revis at all.  He is still the top dog.  But now hes got a guy that can actually compare to him and even exceed him in certain areas.  Sherman is a much better tackler and has a better nose for the ball.  Actually read the stats before posting or risk being labelled an ignorant fan.

    • http://twitter.com/DirkDiggles Derek

       lol so even though all data actually shows that he is indeed at the same level it doesn’t matter because linkmaster disagrees? Yep the definition of ignorance.

    • http://twitter.com/DXOlumba Donovan O.

      Roddy White didnt own him, the touchdown was kam chancellors fault. white had 5 rec 76, yards and only caught 1 pass when it was shermans fault

  • Darnell

    Any way to measure if Revis took to the Sherman approach of deliberatly allowing targets (baiting) in order to get interceptions (Sanchez,Brady,Bradford).

    Its crazy to think how Sherman can get so confident sometimes that he starts to bait NFL QBs.

  • JJ

    Whats the point of being the best anything when you’re watching the Championship games from your armchair?

    Sherman and Revis get away with bending the rules more than other CB’s that I know for sure.

    • Darnell

      Whats’ the point? Well, it is better to try to be the best at something than to not.

      The alternative is being the worst at something (Jimmy Clausen) while watching the Championship games from your armchair.

      That would be like asking Tony Gonzalez what was the point of trying to be the best TE if when he hadn’t won a playoff game until this season.

  • Izach

    ive never been a big revis fan, and ill admitt i was wrong about asomugua, but sherman’s is better than revis. i get that revis shadows the #1 more but i think thats overrated. especially when a team like the jets had almost no good secondary help over the top and cromartie was hot and cold every game, unlike sherman who every single guy in that secondary probowl or all pro worthy. revis is a great CB but he was also the only good DB on the jets for years, sherman may not even be the best DB on his team week in and week out.

    • Catfish22

      Yea I see no difference between defending either Calvin or titus young, Andre Johnson Or kevin Walter, Brandon Marshall or earl Bennett, aj green or Andrew Hawkins…

  • Izach

    also despite every little stats there is the best stat is Qb rating against. that tells you exactly how well a QB does targeting that DB, revis and sherman are practically equal with sherman edgeing him out just a bit.

  • http://twitter.com/Wood334 Wood334

    killing Nnamdi….PFF is the best I want to get that out the way but I dont understand the logic of getting more targets makes you a good CB…Sherman numbers very similar to NNAmdis this year ….and has Revis had lower targets rec and yds then Nnamdi ever? from 08-11 he didnt ….I gotta think the WRs are open thats why DR n RS getting targeted…correct me if Im totally wrong…IMO Nnamdi best at staying w WR and obv one of the worst when his WR is open

    • Izach

      nnamdi is was a victim of age and system, ppl forget he was 30 when he left oakland and trying a new system completely that had him out of his comfort zone. while some CBs can be good after 30 most take a significant decline let alone going to a different system 

  • http://twitter.com/Wood334 Wood334

    I also felt like when I joined PFF prem in 2010 yous were making it pretty clear that you didnt CBs that wasnt involved in play and that was only cuz A22…so I was hoping for a revamped coverage grade that judges wether player targeted or not and I truly believe Nnamdi would be top 3 yearly like he is in Sig Stats cov section

    • PFF_Admin

      It’s simply not practical to grade corners on the backside of the play A-22 or not. There’s too many plays where players are ‘open’ because the corner knows the ball isn’t coming to that side and is slackening his pursuit as he reads the quarterback. You can’t grade that positively or negatively, because the ball never made it an issue.

      Consequently players will almost no targets have to be looked at slightly differently. In Asomugha’s case he played well for a time in Oakland, but developed a reputation that meant teams didn’t test him, and in Oakland they didn’t need to. The Jets force you to still throw at Revis by putting him on your best receiver. Oakland didn’t do that with Aso, and in fact they made it even easier to avoid him by playing him at RCB, the side naturally targeted less often. With the rest of the Oakland secondary around him teams just went at them instead. 

      I’m not sure what sig stats exactly you’re looking at, but by almost every measurable for his time in PHI he’s nowhere close to top 3.

      • Izach

        “There’s too many plays where players are ‘open’ because the corner knows the ball isn’t coming to that side and is slackening his pursuit as he reads the quarterback. You can’t grade that positively or negatively, because the ball never made it an issue”
        untill you grade this youll never have a true picture f how well a CB plays, guys like revis have 1 good season and are not tested, and he slacks off quite a bit more than ppl realize.

  • Yuma Cactus

    Can you say PED? Funny how there is no mention of this. 

    • Anicra

       You do realize that they are tested constantly. He was tested the day of the ruling. So 1 positive test in 20+ tests during the season suggests what?

  • http://twitter.com/thenflanalyst Pauly S.

    Revis also has the disadvantage of facing Tom Brady twice every year, while Sherman plays a division full of very average (or horrendous in Ariz case) QB’s. Numbers say they are close, but opposition strength/in game matchups says Revis is better. I would have to break it down further to get a real read how big of a difference it amounts to in 16 games, but I bet Revis plays better passing attacks overall.

    • Rchmndrch

      Yeah your right, buffalo and Miami have such great quarterbacks also that revis has to have the tuffest qbs of all the divisions. Your an idiot!!

      • Yuma butthole

        *you’re* and tannehill IS  a great qb you imbecile gfy and sanchez could be one of the best qbs if lives up to his potential

      • doggy

        *you’re* and tannehill IS  a great qb you imbecile gfy and sanchez could be one of the best qbs if lives up to his potential

      • Lord Mad

        Nice way to straw man his argument.  Stop acting like a petulant child.  Up until this year..no QB in the NFC west even had a QB half as good as Tom Brady.

        • Izach

          yet before this year sherman wasnt a starter so the arguement sticks. the fact that wilson alex smith and capernick and bradfordhad good season despite having ad games vs sherman means something.

          • kap912

            Because Kaepernick’s and Smith’s and Bradford’s passing ability can be mentioned in the same breath as that of Brady…smh

    • Izach

      the “brady effect” is neutriallized by the fact that he also plays ryan fitzpatrick and at Miami Qb 4 times a year. and who does revis cover an a regualr basis that any good? the smurf in welker? he got owned by brandon marshall while marshall was in miami. the bills have noone and revis used to lose the battle vs moss while he was a patriot too. also sherman had to play megatron, brandon marshall, the packer WRs, fitzgerald twice, crabtree twice, the patriot WRs, steve smith and the dallas WRs. revis hasnt face cometion like that. Ever. so your arguement of oppostion strength/ingame matchups actually favors sherman. revis plays maybe 3-4 games vs good/top WRs never 10 games like sherman. you can even argue fitz had his worst eason ever partly becuase of sherman revis let fitz get 100 yard in 1 game a few years back, sherman let him get 60 something in 2 games

      • Shawn

        Ok its clear you’re just making up facts therefore adding nothing to the discussion…1. Which game has Brandon Marshall ever owned Revis? I’ve seen all there match ups..it never happened….2. Moss has had 1 good game, make that 1 good play, out of the 5 or 6 games that they have matched up against each other. Revis shut him down every other time…How is that considered losing the battle? Almost every point you tried to make is nonsense

      • http://www.defeatobama.com DefeatObama.com

        Do you people even know football. Revis loss to Moss?
        Moss’ stats 2010 2 catches 38 yards 1TD (1 game)2009 9 catches 58 yard 1TD (2 Games) 1 INT Revis on Moss2008 7 catches 51 yards 1 TD (2 Games)2007 4 catches 33 1 TD (1 Game)  1 INT Revis on MossSo six games Moss managed 180 yards, 4TD and Revis picked off 2 passes. 

      • Giantsfan9224

         Ive never seen Richard Sherman guard the #1 WR for an entire game. He may have guarded the #1 when they lined up on his side but Revis guards Marshall, Stevie Johnson, Andre Johnson, AJ Green for the entire game not just when they line up on his side. My point is Darrelle Revis guards the #1 wherever they line up regardless, Sherman only guards the best when they line up on the offensive right side. Another good point to make is that Kam Chancellor and Earl Thomas are completely better safties to help over the top than Yeremiah Bell and LaRon Landry who are run stopping safeties. It is not a landslide but in my opinion Revis still has the edge.

  • NM98966N

    CAN YOU GUYS PLEASE GRADE THE SENIOR BOWL????

  • Sam

    Excellent analysis.

    Sherman is a great CB and I will be very interested to watch the remainder of his career. Having said that, I don’t think the comparison is as close as this analysis makes it appear.

    1) Sherman’s stats cherry picks a great year here, while those for Revis are a three year avg. I realize there’s only 1 year to go on with Sherman, but its not a fair comparison.
    2) The analysis rightly points out that Revis is often assigned to the opposing WR (including slot WRs), but than kind of ignores it in the conclusion. This is a huge factor.
    3) Its very difficult to measure the true value of a CB with stats alone. In many games, opposing game plans and QB reads discount the possibility of throwing against Revis in the first place. There have been Jet games where Revis’ name hardly ever gets called. There is no way to bolster stats with int’s and passes defensed when team won’t even throw at you.
    4) Unlike the Seahawks, the Jets’ defensive game plan is heavily dependent on Revis’ shut down skills. With Revis out, the Jets’ percentage of blitzes was significantly down this year. And don’t let the Jets overall defensive ranking and pass defense ranking fool you into thinking Revis was not missed. The Jets defensive rankings this year ended up as good as they are because of the many poor passing offenses they faced, and the fact that in many games, the Jets’ opponents just had to play ball control to win.

    • Izach

      Sam—— your point seem good but are actually logical fallacies

      1) revis stats are the “cherry picked” ones. sherman can only go on his years as a starter, where as revis’ 3 year average throws out his worst year for no reason (if he plays it counts) and picks his 3 best years despite having 6 years worth of stats. if anything campare revis’, a 1st rounder, 1st 2 years to shermans, a 3rd rounders, 1st 2years to get a better picture becuase if anything revis has peaked while sherman is still developing.
      2) the slot actually helps revis’s stats becuase while the slot WR may ctach more balls its usually for shorter gains and not TDs.
      3)  while QBs game planning to stay away from revis may hinder his “eye catching” stats they actaully help him in the long run QBs not even looking towards revis direction even if the WR is open. in that sense revis’ reputation helps him more than hurts him
      4) as for the jets game plan they actually dont rely on revis as much as ppl think, they tend to have the safety shade the deep threat and more often then not thats the #1 WR.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chris.gamestrodamos Chris Gamestrodamos

    Numbers Smumbers…. Who is actually going to take Sherman over Revis? Numbers dont tell the whole story and Revis is a better player than Sherman. Revis shuts down Bradys number one reciever twice a year and who does Sherman face in that pathetic conference? NOBODY! Next you will say that Sanchez is not far off from Eli in their first years… Thats what Jets fans have been saying the past 3 years….

    • pbskids4000

      idiot

  • mdm5

    Nice to see their past numbers compare, but what matters is how they ll do next season(s). Who would you rather have on ur roster?
    Give me Sherm all the way (guess the jets front office would agree), so am stunned to read the Seahawks may be favorites in revis trade talks

  • Robot2099

    Anyone, let me repeat that, ANYONE who thinks Richard Sherman isn’t a legit All-Pro caliber shutdown corner either hasn’t watched him play or doesn’t know a damn thing about football. 

  • Somebodybuy

    Revis is still slightly better than Sherman. However, he won’t be for long

  • J-Blunts

    Lets see how consistent Sherman will be over the next few seasons. Revis has been consistently great his whole career. Consistent play is the key to greatness.

  • bob

    Really, it doesn’t matter.  There is no reason to compare the two because they play completely different styles.  Revis can’t play the way Sherman can, and Sherman can’t play the way Revis can.  Both know how to maximize their strengths and use their smarts to manipulate quarterbacks.  Sherman doesn’t have the body of work that Revis does, although Sherman has done more in his first two years than Revis did.  To say either one is overrated is just the bitter rantings of an uninformed “fan”.  Someone who watches Sherman, having any knowledge of the position, cannot say he’s bad.  Sure you may hate how he runs his mouth but the guy is a genius, the first person from Compton to graduate from Stanford and finished high school with over a 4.0 GPA.  He knows how to get into peoples heads and take advantage of players who are flustered.  Some of the greatest players in the NFL were like this.

    Funny thing with this conflict is Sherman stated the two best cornerbacks in the NFL were Browner and Cromartie.  He said Revis would be on his list if he played this year.  Sherman has nothing against Revis, but definitely has everything against the critics who dismiss him because he’s not a big name player.

  • Searljr206

    Richard Sherman is the truth. He should have equal or better season next year. Seahawks are for real. Revis is damn good. But he’s no dion sanders. No one compares to Mr. Sanders.

  • Napoleonbernier

    Kind’ve wish you guys had a 3-year option on all of your statistics (aka baseball’s Fangraphs). Not a perfect tool, but it does provide another interesting layer. And then we could see for ourselves in three years how Sherman compares to Revis.
     

  • Lidman

    Sherman is a great player, no doubt. Amazing that the NFL couldn’t find this type of talent until round 5. One question I’d have: how did Seattle compare to pressuring the QB last year, compared to how the NYJ did over the period in which you measure Revis, and just his 2009 season alone? The NY Giants have proven a great pass rush will greatly mask weak secondary play.

    And while you also mentioned how Revis moves all over-because he covers the other team’s best guy, no matter where he goes, don’t we also need to look at how many times each plays in ‘cover 1′, don’t we?

    Revis has ‘dominated’ guys like Andrew Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Randy Moss, Vincent Jackson, Marques Colston, Terrell Owens, Roddy White, Calvin Johnson and Brandon Marshall (just to name a few) multiple times. I mean he made Reggie Wayne invisible in the 2011 Divisional Round, to point where Manning said: ‘Reggie wasn’t open’. I think if you ask Brandon Marshall, who’s played Revis multiple times, or Welker (both of whom faced Seattle last year and gained over 100 yards) it would be interesting to see their responses.

  • Hauteglam

    Nice…

  • Hauteglam

    Although this website does very comprehensive work its also just as bias. How are you gonna gloss over Revis 2010 year cause he was “clearly hurt”? You think he’s the only player who’s palying hurt before? It happens on every team, every yr with damn near every player. So why don’t other players get that same “PASS”? And then you wanna discredit Asomugha for his greatness in Oakland cause he’s struggling in Philly?? Give credit where it is due please. He was better than ANYONE in the league in his years in Oakland and no one else being respected in Oakland is why he was so good?? In the 2010 year he and Routt had the #1 tandem in the league both posting a 39% comp rate and only accounted for 3 TD’s between them both (as posted on your site; research it) and the #2 ranked pass defense along with saftey Micheal Huff receiving ALL-Pro Honorable Mention and another solid year from Branch. How is that NOT RESPECT? Point being you do good work but you’re very biased toward some players and it’s clearly obvious. Just like in the 2011 season when the Pats vs. Jets. Welker made a huge play over the middle that resulted in a 40 yd gain on what appeared to be Revis. your post next week was after “heavy research” and asking everyone and their grandmother it was determined that wasn’t Revis fault. When it’s other players and it seems a bit cloudy on who is at fault do you go through the same lengths to find the truth? NO you don’t appear to do the same….that my friend is BIASED!! Please only SAM MONSON reply back to this…I know he’ll see it and I’m patiently awaiting his response. 

  • Brigjack

    Sherman is new, young, brilliant athlete, and smart.  I saw him as a champion high school receiver and corner at Dominguez HS in Paramount, CA next to Compton.  He was a state track finalist in high jump, hurdler, and 4×400 championship relay team runner.  He was also a straight A student who graduated from Stanford.  Reason to be arrogant.  But he hasn’t topped Revis just yet. 

  • Phisch13

    Please show me a play where Revis got torched.  Other than the play Randy Moss beat him and Revis was hurt.  It doesn’t exist.  That is the one reason he is better.  He simply never gets beat

  • Vpuntillo

    Pats fans = ignorant fans – So pbskids4000 is correct

  • ggfh

    lets see if sherman could consistently play at that rate for 3 more years and lets see if he can shutdown calvin johnson and andre johnson like revis did